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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

    Kung fu is not the martial art

    sounds like the whole "evolution is xyz ... no! It's abc" argument when we all know that when scientists, media, what-not are talking "evolution" they mean a specific thing. Likewise, your statement about Kung Fu, while it may be "true", really serves to confuse the subject. When it's clear that when most western people speak of Kung Fu they're talking of that thing that Bruce Lee[^] was famous for doing.

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

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      Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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      Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Chinese especially. It's a wonderful, complex language that combines ideas together to create new ideas but the basic idea doesn't change.

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        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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        • R realJSOP

          Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.

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            Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              Leave them to the professionals

              You called?

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                realJSOP
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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds

                It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                  When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                  • D devvvy

                    just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                    dev

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                    ragnaroknrol
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                    I saw my dad demolish a guy roughly twice his size once, a good 6'3" to my dad's 5'6" and probably a good 50lbs on him. "What you going to do about it, shorty?" "I'm going to punch you twice in the ribs, breaking 3 of them at least, knee you in the crotch, then when your hollow head dips down I will punch you in your throat, and shut your mouth with an uppercut that breaks your jaw. After that I am going to take the money for the burrito you stole from my store and leave you on the floor as a sign to everyone about what happens to shoplifters." He didn't lie. Martial arts > muscle. Martial arts + muscle = horrifying results.

                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                      realJSOP
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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

                      I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                      • R ricmil42

                        The size of your penis has nothing to do with it. If I could kill someone at 100 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun. :)

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                        Word up.

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

                          I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          While you're out at the range shooting blanks, I'll be at home firing live ones. ;P

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                          • D devvvy

                            just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                            dev

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                            Mladen Jankovic
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                            devvvy wrote:

                            or am i mistaken?

                            Sure you are dead wrong. Take this[^] for instance. It's K1 competition, the big guy is Mighty Mo and only god knows how many big(ger) guys he sent home by knocking them out, but not this one who's half his size.

                            [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                            • R realJSOP

                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds

                              It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                              -----
                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                              Can't argue with that. :laugh:

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                              • D devvvy

                                just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                                dev

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                devvvy wrote:

                                I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                                Kung Fu is mainly for show. It's more pretty than it effective - which is why it's used in movies, etc. If you ever pay attention to the guys not moving in a fight scene thy always "wait their turn" to get their butt kicked. Real life doesn't work like that. That being said, proper technique with a martial art meant for real combat isn't Kung Fu. I'm not dissing Kung Fu here, I think it's an awesome art form. It's just not practical. But, for self defense on the street I'd choose something else. To actually address your question, as much as I love strength and body building, technique will always win IF you're good. There are pressure points in the body that regardless of strength hurt like hell if hit right. But if you're technique sucks (which most people's do - even if they don't think so) you better watch out because that raw strength is going to hurt. At the end of the day, go for whichever one you like the most. Learning either will help defend you in most situations. Especially considering the best martial artists aren't the bullies - it's the retards that usually are.

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                • D devvvy

                                  just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                                  dev

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Po[^] will always win. Just ask Tai Lung[^].

                                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                    Leave them to the professionals

                                    You called?

                                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                    Nagy Vilmos
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                                    Me called Bodie.


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                      When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P

                                      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      That be fightin' talk rom these 'ere parts. You don't know what it's like, never knowing how many cocktail parties you have to attend, popping round to see the chums in the House bar for a class of something layed down in '63. It's hell I tell you! Hell!


                                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

                                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        Come thee Brother to the 'International League of Pedants', your teachings will be welcomed there.


                                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Word up.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          Nagy Vilmos
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          Word up.

                                          For that you get: Dah pretty ladies around the world Got a weird thing to show you, So tell all the boys and girls. Tell your brother, your sister And mama too, cause they're About to go down And you'll know just what to do...


                                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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