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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    Leave them to the professionals

    You called?

    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.

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      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds

      It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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        When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P

        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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        • D devvvy

          just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

          dev

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          ragnaroknrol
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          I saw my dad demolish a guy roughly twice his size once, a good 6'3" to my dad's 5'6" and probably a good 50lbs on him. "What you going to do about it, shorty?" "I'm going to punch you twice in the ribs, breaking 3 of them at least, knee you in the crotch, then when your hollow head dips down I will punch you in your throat, and shut your mouth with an uppercut that breaks your jaw. After that I am going to take the money for the burrito you stole from my store and leave you on the floor as a sign to everyone about what happens to shoplifters." He didn't lie. Martial arts > muscle. Martial arts + muscle = horrifying results.

          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

            I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            • R ricmil42

              The size of your penis has nothing to do with it. If I could kill someone at 100 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun. :)

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              Word up.

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              • R realJSOP

                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

                I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                -----
                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Pete OHanlon
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                While you're out at the range shooting blanks, I'll be at home firing live ones. ;P

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                • D devvvy

                  just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                  dev

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                  devvvy wrote:

                  or am i mistaken?

                  Sure you are dead wrong. Take this[^] for instance. It's K1 competition, the big guy is Mighty Mo and only god knows how many big(ger) guys he sent home by knocking them out, but not this one who's half his size.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds

                    It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                    Can't argue with that. :laugh:

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                    • D devvvy

                      just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                      dev

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      devvvy wrote:

                      I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                      Kung Fu is mainly for show. It's more pretty than it effective - which is why it's used in movies, etc. If you ever pay attention to the guys not moving in a fight scene thy always "wait their turn" to get their butt kicked. Real life doesn't work like that. That being said, proper technique with a martial art meant for real combat isn't Kung Fu. I'm not dissing Kung Fu here, I think it's an awesome art form. It's just not practical. But, for self defense on the street I'd choose something else. To actually address your question, as much as I love strength and body building, technique will always win IF you're good. There are pressure points in the body that regardless of strength hurt like hell if hit right. But if you're technique sucks (which most people's do - even if they don't think so) you better watch out because that raw strength is going to hurt. At the end of the day, go for whichever one you like the most. Learning either will help defend you in most situations. Especially considering the best martial artists aren't the bullies - it's the retards that usually are.

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                      • D devvvy

                        just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                        dev

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Po[^] will always win. Just ask Tai Lung[^].

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          Leave them to the professionals

                          You called?

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Me called Bodie.


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                            When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P

                            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            That be fightin' talk rom these 'ere parts. You don't know what it's like, never knowing how many cocktail parties you have to attend, popping round to see the chums in the House bar for a class of something layed down in '63. It's hell I tell you! Hell!


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

                              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Come thee Brother to the 'International League of Pedants', your teachings will be welcomed there.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                Word up.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                Word up.

                                For that you get: Dah pretty ladies around the world Got a weird thing to show you, So tell all the boys and girls. Tell your brother, your sister And mama too, cause they're About to go down And you'll know just what to do...


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Word up.

                                  For that you get: Dah pretty ladies around the world Got a weird thing to show you, So tell all the boys and girls. Tell your brother, your sister And mama too, cause they're About to go down And you'll know just what to do...


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                  Geordi La Forge was in that video.

                                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Closer than 20 feet, man beat gun!

                                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                    PaulowniaK
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    Closer than 20 feet, man beat gun!

                                    Not really... since there is a person holding the gun too... that'll be "Closer than 20 feet, man beat slower man with gun!"

                                    Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                                    • D devvvy

                                      just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                                      dev

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                                      You are seriously mistaken, if you extend that to martial arts in general. I don't practice kung fu, but I'm sure it's nearly as effective in its way as the taekwondo and hapkido I do practice. I can assure you that the 120 lb practitoner of TKD at my level will have little trouble taking down an untrained 180 lb body builder. The reason you don't see that happening often is that we are trained not to fight, except as a last resort, and then to fight without mercy to utterly destroy the problem child. Few of us look forward to prison, so it rarely happens. ;P

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Geordi La Forge was in that video.

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        It's close to midnight, Something evils lurking... Are you sober David?


                                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.

                                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                          You chaps banned guns left right and centre after Dunblaine ina typical knee jerk reaciton. point of interest - hows that gun crime ticking along now? Bryce

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