Kung Fu vs Muscle
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
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devvvy wrote:
I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
Kung Fu is mainly for show. It's more pretty than it effective - which is why it's used in movies, etc. If you ever pay attention to the guys not moving in a fight scene thy always "wait their turn" to get their butt kicked. Real life doesn't work like that. That being said, proper technique with a martial art meant for real combat isn't Kung Fu. I'm not dissing Kung Fu here, I think it's an awesome art form. It's just not practical. But, for self defense on the street I'd choose something else. To actually address your question, as much as I love strength and body building, technique will always win IF you're good. There are pressure points in the body that regardless of strength hurt like hell if hit right. But if you're technique sucks (which most people's do - even if they don't think so) you better watch out because that raw strength is going to hurt. At the end of the day, go for whichever one you like the most. Learning either will help defend you in most situations. Especially considering the best martial artists aren't the bullies - it's the retards that usually are.
Jeremy Falcon
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Leave them to the professionals
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When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P
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Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.
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Word up.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Word up.
For that you get: Dah pretty ladies around the world Got a weird thing to show you, So tell all the boys and girls. Tell your brother, your sister And mama too, cause they're About to go down And you'll know just what to do...
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Word up.
For that you get: Dah pretty ladies around the world Got a weird thing to show you, So tell all the boys and girls. Tell your brother, your sister And mama too, cause they're About to go down And you'll know just what to do...
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
Geordi La Forge was in that video.
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Closer than 20 feet, man beat gun!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
Closer than 20 feet, man beat gun!
Not really... since there is a person holding the gun too... that'll be "Closer than 20 feet, man beat slower man with gun!"
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
You are seriously mistaken, if you extend that to martial arts in general. I don't practice kung fu, but I'm sure it's nearly as effective in its way as the taekwondo and hapkido I do practice. I can assure you that the 120 lb practitoner of TKD at my level will have little trouble taking down an untrained 180 lb body builder. The reason you don't see that happening often is that we are trained not to fight, except as a last resort, and then to fight without mercy to utterly destroy the problem child. Few of us look forward to prison, so it rarely happens. ;P
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Geordi La Forge was in that video.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
It's close to midnight, Something evils lurking... Are you sober David?
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Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.
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You chaps banned guns left right and centre after Dunblaine ina typical knee jerk reaciton. point of interest - hows that gun crime ticking along now? Bryce
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You are seriously mistaken, if you extend that to martial arts in general. I don't practice kung fu, but I'm sure it's nearly as effective in its way as the taekwondo and hapkido I do practice. I can assure you that the 120 lb practitoner of TKD at my level will have little trouble taking down an untrained 180 lb body builder. The reason you don't see that happening often is that we are trained not to fight, except as a last resort, and then to fight without mercy to utterly destroy the problem child. Few of us look forward to prison, so it rarely happens. ;P
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
. I can assure you that the 120 lb practitoner of TKD at my level will have little trouble taking down an untrained 180 lb body builder.
In the dojang maybe Mr Wogger. Bryce
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
It depends It depends on whether the 80 kg (we work in SI units) is a wimp - has any internal fortitude , has any balls. If hes a sook then hes toast regardless. If he knows how to throw and take a punch and has been in a few real world scraps then hes got a size advantage and experience and then the old adage applies - a good big-un' will usually beat a good little-un'. Occams Razor applies. Bryce
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Roger Wright wrote:
. I can assure you that the 120 lb practitoner of TKD at my level will have little trouble taking down an untrained 180 lb body builder.
In the dojang maybe Mr Wogger. Bryce
MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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And anywhere else... we didn't play nice at my school. :-D Padding was required for children, of course, and we didn't teach the nastier bits until they were adults. Can't have school kids maiming and killing each other, now can we? :rolleyes:
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001For some reason I assumed you didn't drink. Maybe it's that you drink beer but not hard alcohol?
Regards, Nish
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The size of your penis has nothing to do with it. If I could kill someone at 100 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun. :)
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When I used to do Muay Thai, a bodybuilder started coming to the club (he doubled as a bouncer), and just about everybody in the club kicked seven barrels out of him. He was too musclebound - he had no flexibility, and his movements were slow. A skilled martial artist uses speed and accuracy to defend or attack as appropriate and will have faster reflexes (plus more flexibility) than the bodybuilder. In my reflexes were honed by a wonderful Filipino martial art called Escrima - when somebody is swinging a stick at high speed towards your head, you learn to defend yourself quickly.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Bodybuilder does not necessarily mean less flexibility. If properly trained, these men can be more dangerous than the normal looking ones because of the added power: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Lesnar[^] If you've seen that man fighting, you'll agree that the agility is kinda unbelievable for a man *that* muscular.
Workout progress:
Current arm size: 14.4in
Desired arm size: 18in
Next Target: 15.4in by Dec 2010Current training method: HIT
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
when somebody is swinging a stick at high speed towards your head, you learn to defend yourself quickly.
No. If someone is swinging a stick at your head, you learn to become a better shot for the next time...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
No. If someone is swinging a stick at your head, you learn to become a better shot for the next time...
Absolutely. It reminds me of when, back in the day, the unarmed combat instructor couldn't take the class for some reason, so the Sar'n't Major that normally took weapons training took the session instead. His opening remark was: "Gen'l'men - why the fu*k are you unarmed?" Footnote for JSOP:
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
This is the same guy that taught me to double-tap. ;P
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Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Excellent, sir!
Workout progress:
Current arm size: 14.4in
Desired arm size: 18in
Next Target: 15.4in by Dec 2010Current training method: HIT
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You chaps banned guns left right and centre after Dunblaine ina typical knee jerk reaciton. point of interest - hows that gun crime ticking along now? Bryce
MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff
It's fine. When there's a crime involving guns here, it still makes the news because it's not common. Knives now - that's our problem.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
