Kung Fu vs Muscle
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns.
Hey, take that back! In America, we measure our penises by the size of our SUV's!
SUV? Bah... My ride[^] would flatten your SUV :)
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
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Hitting is like any sports related skill. It's a complex motion that has to be learned like anything else. Avoiding getting hit is even harder. All things being equal being stronger gives you a big advantage though. However, there are at least 3 different kinds of strength: maximal, explosive, endurance. How hard you can punch depends on what kinds of strength you have throughout your body; Roughly 60% of the force comes from core and legs, 40% from your upper body. Your speed is governed by practice, and learning to keep a clear head makes a huge difference. So, when it comes down to it, when you fight you never know what is going to happen. Anyone can get a lucky shot in and when one of those connects you are toast. The more you learn about fighting the less you want to do it for real, especially when you throw guns and knives into the mix.
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drothe wrote:
so I can't say anything as to the particular style.
This is actually a common misconception. Kung fu is not the martial art - like many, I experimented with different martial arts (I started off with Wushu; particularly Chang Chuan) and Wushu is the martial aspect. Kung fu very roughly translates to "time and energy" and can relate to any discipline that takes time and effort to learn, e.g. piano. There are many styles of Wushu.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Kung fu is not the martial art
sounds like the whole "evolution is xyz ... no! It's abc" argument when we all know that when scientists, media, what-not are talking "evolution" they mean a specific thing. Likewise, your statement about Kung Fu, while it may be "true", really serves to confuse the subject. When it's clear that when most western people speak of Kung Fu they're talking of that thing that Bruce Lee[^] was famous for doing.
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SUV? Bah... My ride[^] would flatten your SUV :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I lived where the subway became the elevated train on one of the busiest lines in Chicago. You heard a train come up every 1-2 minutes. This area was protected by huge concrete walls and a 20+ ft tall barb wire fence. Why was this? A car had driven into the subway one day. Poof. Like literally...
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Kung fu is not the martial art
sounds like the whole "evolution is xyz ... no! It's abc" argument when we all know that when scientists, media, what-not are talking "evolution" they mean a specific thing. Likewise, your statement about Kung Fu, while it may be "true", really serves to confuse the subject. When it's clear that when most western people speak of Kung Fu they're talking of that thing that Bruce Lee[^] was famous for doing.
Fight Big Government:
http://obamacareclassaction.com/
http://obamacaretruth.org/Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.
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As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.
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Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.
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Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.
Fight Big Government:
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http://obamacaretruth.org/Chinese especially. It's a wonderful, complex language that combines ideas together to create new ideas but the basic idea doesn't change.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 20015 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.
Jeremy Falcon
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Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.
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Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Leave them to the professionals
You called?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds
It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
I saw my dad demolish a guy roughly twice his size once, a good 6'3" to my dad's 5'6" and probably a good 50lbs on him. "What you going to do about it, shorty?" "I'm going to punch you twice in the ribs, breaking 3 of them at least, knee you in the crotch, then when your hollow head dips down I will punch you in your throat, and shut your mouth with an uppercut that breaks your jaw. After that I am going to take the money for the burrito you stole from my store and leave you on the floor as a sign to everyone about what happens to shoplifters." He didn't lie. Martial arts > muscle. Martial arts + muscle = horrifying results.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns
I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
The size of your penis has nothing to do with it. If I could kill someone at 100 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun. :)
Word up.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns
I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001While you're out at the range shooting blanks, I'll be at home firing live ones. ;P
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds
It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.
Can't argue with that. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
dev
devvvy wrote:
I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
Kung Fu is mainly for show. It's more pretty than it effective - which is why it's used in movies, etc. If you ever pay attention to the guys not moving in a fight scene thy always "wait their turn" to get their butt kicked. Real life doesn't work like that. That being said, proper technique with a martial art meant for real combat isn't Kung Fu. I'm not dissing Kung Fu here, I think it's an awesome art form. It's just not practical. But, for self defense on the street I'd choose something else. To actually address your question, as much as I love strength and body building, technique will always win IF you're good. There are pressure points in the body that regardless of strength hurt like hell if hit right. But if you're technique sucks (which most people's do - even if they don't think so) you better watch out because that raw strength is going to hurt. At the end of the day, go for whichever one you like the most. Learning either will help defend you in most situations. Especially considering the best martial artists aren't the bullies - it's the retards that usually are.
Jeremy Falcon
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just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?
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