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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Mercury can be lethal in large quantities too, but not if those large quantities are on a planet you are not on. All depends on how you use it. It can be lethal in large quantites if inhaled or injected (or shot out of a dihydrogen monoxide gun that propels the substance at a sufficient velocity into your brain).

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    AspDotNetDev
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    aspdotnetdev wrote:

    not if those large quantities are on a planet you are not on

    Actually, that could be lethal too, if the gravity is sufficient to cause a sheer force that rips you apart.

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      I believe one of the early programming languages allowed literals to be overwritten in code with the assignment operator.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me

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      Brady Kelly
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      I've had four beers, but that makes sense. A literal is basically an anonymous object. The following is not allowed in C#, but I think it illustrates the concept of assigning to a literal quite nicely, and we all know how promiscuous older languages were compared to our beloved.

              var lit = new {Name = "Brady"};
              lit.Name = "Ennis";
      
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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me

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        Nish Nishant
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

        In a closure.

        Regards, Nish


        Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application

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          Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

          Yusuf May I help you?

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          Yusuf wrote:

          Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements.

          //#include <iostream> //wait... we don't any of those!

          int main()
          {
          return; //usage of return is NOT yet banned.
          }

          It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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          • E El Corazon

            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

            Programming is harmful

            I don't see what how that is possible... it isn't like programs launch missiles or anything... err... oh... wait.....

            _________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Yes!

            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

              utf8-cpp

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              On a (somewhat) related note, I found Big Ball of Mud[^] to be an excellent read. /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

                In a closure.

                Regards, Nish


                Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application

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                Obligatory XKCD reference: http://xkcd.com/297/[^]

                ragnaroknrol The Internet is For Porn[^]
                Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.

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                • Y Yusuf

                  Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

                  Yusuf May I help you?

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                  El Corazon
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                  #include int main() { int a, b; std::cout << "Enter a number: "; std::cin >> a; std::cout << "\nEnter a number: "; std::cin >> b; std::cout << "Largest: " << ((a > b) ? a : b) << "\nSmallest: " << ((a < b) ? a : b) << std::endl; return 0; }

                  _________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....

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                  • Y Yusuf

                    Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

                    Yusuf May I help you?

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                    //if-statement
                    if(value == 95.0)
                    return 44;
                    else
                    return 76;

                    //switch-block
                    switch(value)
                    {
                    case 95.0:
                    return 44;
                    default:
                    return 76;
                    }

                    //ternary operator - if feeling frustrated by idiotic constraints, nest as appropriate to share mood with other developers
                    return (value == 95.0) ? 44 : 76;

                    I suppose I don't need to say how to replace a for loop with a while loop. Not entirely certain how to get around the assignment statements though - maybe another member could shed some light on this?

                    OSDev :)

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                      Too easy, you need to add: e. Make it do something useful.

                      Did you know: That by counting the rings on a tree trunk, you can tell how many other trees it has slept with.

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                        //if-statement
                        if(value == 95.0)
                        return 44;
                        else
                        return 76;

                        //switch-block
                        switch(value)
                        {
                        case 95.0:
                        return 44;
                        default:
                        return 76;
                        }

                        //ternary operator - if feeling frustrated by idiotic constraints, nest as appropriate to share mood with other developers
                        return (value == 95.0) ? 44 : 76;

                        I suppose I don't need to say how to replace a for loop with a while loop. Not entirely certain how to get around the assignment statements though - maybe another member could shed some light on this?

                        OSDev :)

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                        Lost User
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                        I guess you could use tail recursion

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          On a (somewhat) related note, I found Big Ball of Mud[^] to be an excellent read. /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          Roger Wright
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                          An excellent read, Ravi! :-D Fortunately, all of my projects are based from inception on the BBoM architecture, which saves me loads of time by never refactoring.

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            I've had four beers, but that makes sense. A literal is basically an anonymous object. The following is not allowed in C#, but I think it illustrates the concept of assigning to a literal quite nicely, and we all know how promiscuous older languages were compared to our beloved.

                                    var lit = new {Name = "Brady"};
                                    lit.Name = "Ennis";
                            
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                            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                            The assigning to a literal bug refers to

                            4 = 5;

                            Being legal code and replacing the binary value of 4 with 5 break all logic based one that literal.

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              An excellent read, Ravi! :-D Fortunately, all of my projects are based from inception on the BBoM architecture, which saves me loads of time by never refactoring.

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Hey, btw check your email!  (The one to which CP email replies are sent). /ravi

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                              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                Yusuf wrote:

                                Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements.

                                //#include <iostream> //wait... we don't any of those!

                                int main()
                                {
                                return; //usage of return is NOT yet banned.
                                }

                                It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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                                Mladen Jankovic
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                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                **int** main() {   **return;** // return what?usage of return is NOT yet banned. }

                                You see, it's harder then you think.

                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                usage of return is NOT yet banned.

                                And you see why it should be.

                                [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  Lost User
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                                  They even admitted that SSA exists - what's the problem then? Just use that.

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                                  • M Mladen Jankovic

                                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                    **int** main() {   **return;** // return what?usage of return is NOT yet banned. }

                                    You see, it's harder then you think.

                                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                    usage of return is NOT yet banned.

                                    And you see why it should be.

                                    [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    :((

                                    It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

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                                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                        After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                                        utf8-cpp

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                                        Tomz_KV
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                                        With so many harmful statements, not much left for a programmer to use.

                                        TOMZ_KV

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                                          utf8-cpp

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                                          Alexander DiMauro
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                                          His conclusion: learn functional programing. Haskell recommended. dice.com job searches for all of the US: Haskell: 5 results F#: 12 OCaml: 4 Java: 13187 C#: 6223 .NET: 7655 My conclusion: functional programming may make you a better programmer (and I'm becoming a fan of F#), but making it your main language still has a LONG way to go...unless you work in academia, I suppose.

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