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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

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    Nish Nishant
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    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

    I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

    In a closure.

    Regards, Nish


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    • Y Yusuf

      Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

      Yusuf May I help you?

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      Yusuf wrote:

      Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements.

      //#include <iostream> //wait... we don't any of those!

      int main()
      {
      return; //usage of return is NOT yet banned.
      }

      It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

        utf8-cpp

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        On a (somewhat) related note, I found Big Ball of Mud[^] to be an excellent read. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • E El Corazon

          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

          Programming is harmful

          I don't see what how that is possible... it isn't like programs launch missiles or anything... err... oh... wait.....

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          Yes!

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          • N Nish Nishant

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            I just wonder where functional programmers store the result of your statement.

            In a closure.

            Regards, Nish


            Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application

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            • Y Yusuf

              Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

              Yusuf May I help you?

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              #include int main() { int a, b; std::cout << "Enter a number: "; std::cin >> a; std::cout << "\nEnter a number: "; std::cin >> b; std::cout << "Largest: " << ((a > b) ? a : b) << "\nSmallest: " << ((a < b) ? a : b) << std::endl; return 0; }

              _________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....

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              • Y Yusuf

                Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

                Yusuf May I help you?

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                0x3c0
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                //if-statement
                if(value == 95.0)
                return 44;
                else
                return 76;

                //switch-block
                switch(value)
                {
                case 95.0:
                return 44;
                default:
                return 76;
                }

                //ternary operator - if feeling frustrated by idiotic constraints, nest as appropriate to share mood with other developers
                return (value == 95.0) ? 44 : 76;

                I suppose I don't need to say how to replace a for loop with a while loop. Not entirely certain how to get around the assignment statements though - maybe another member could shed some light on this?

                OSDev :)

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Too easy, you need to add: e. Make it do something useful.

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                    //if-statement
                    if(value == 95.0)
                    return 44;
                    else
                    return 76;

                    //switch-block
                    switch(value)
                    {
                    case 95.0:
                    return 44;
                    default:
                    return 76;
                    }

                    //ternary operator - if feeling frustrated by idiotic constraints, nest as appropriate to share mood with other developers
                    return (value == 95.0) ? 44 : 76;

                    I suppose I don't need to say how to replace a for loop with a while loop. Not entirely certain how to get around the assignment statements though - maybe another member could shed some light on this?

                    OSDev :)

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                    Lost User
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                    I guess you could use tail recursion

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      On a (somewhat) related note, I found Big Ball of Mud[^] to be an excellent read. /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      Roger Wright
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                      An excellent read, Ravi! :-D Fortunately, all of my projects are based from inception on the BBoM architecture, which saves me loads of time by never refactoring.

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        I've had four beers, but that makes sense. A literal is basically an anonymous object. The following is not allowed in C#, but I think it illustrates the concept of assigning to a literal quite nicely, and we all know how promiscuous older languages were compared to our beloved.

                                var lit = new {Name = "Brady"};
                                lit.Name = "Ennis";
                        
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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        The assigning to a literal bug refers to

                        4 = 5;

                        Being legal code and replacing the binary value of 4 with 5 break all logic based one that literal.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          An excellent read, Ravi! :-D Fortunately, all of my projects are based from inception on the BBoM architecture, which saves me loads of time by never refactoring.

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          Hey, btw check your email!  (The one to which CP email replies are sent). /ravi

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            Yusuf wrote:

                            Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements.

                            //#include <iostream> //wait... we don't any of those!

                            int main()
                            {
                            return; //usage of return is NOT yet banned.
                            }

                            It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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                            Mladen Jankovic
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                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            **int** main() {   **return;** // return what?usage of return is NOT yet banned. }

                            You see, it's harder then you think.

                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            usage of return is NOT yet banned.

                            And you see why it should be.

                            [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                              After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                              utf8-cpp

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                              Lost User
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                              They even admitted that SSA exists - what's the problem then? Just use that.

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                              • M Mladen Jankovic

                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                **int** main() {   **return;** // return what?usage of return is NOT yet banned. }

                                You see, it's harder then you think.

                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                usage of return is NOT yet banned.

                                And you see why it should be.

                                [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                                :((

                                It's time for a new sig. Seriously.

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                                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                    After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                                    utf8-cpp

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    With so many harmful statements, not much left for a programmer to use.

                                    TOMZ_KV

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                                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                      After we figured out that goto is bad[^] and established that if statement is not much better[^], and of course for loops should be avoided at all cost[^] it is time for another logical step in that direction: ladies and gentlemen I give you Assignment Statement Considered Harmful[^].

                                      utf8-cpp

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                                      Alexander DiMauro
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                                      His conclusion: learn functional programing. Haskell recommended. dice.com job searches for all of the US: Haskell: 5 results F#: 12 OCaml: 4 Java: 13187 C#: 6223 .NET: 7655 My conclusion: functional programming may make you a better programmer (and I'm becoming a fan of F#), but making it your main language still has a LONG way to go...unless you work in academia, I suppose.

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                                        • Y Yusuf

                                          Ok, next month's competition Write a piece of code with the following condition a. You can't use goto (very simple) b. You can't use if statement c. You can't use for loops d. You can't use assignment statements. Good luck :rolleyes:

                                          Yusuf May I help you?

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                                          Lilith C
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                                          Does it need to be commercially viable?

                                          I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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