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    about 400 to 500 dollars per month would be a good salary in India. Most major software companies in India seems to be paying that much. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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    That's what I mean. I wouldn't get out of bed for that much money. The cost of living must be less over there, which means we cannot compete. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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      That's what I mean. I wouldn't get out of bed for that much money. The cost of living must be less over there, which means we cannot compete. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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      The cost of living is less because people consume less. Most people do not have cars and use public transport. Food and accomodation is extremely cheap compared to western price levels; because most people cannot afford them unless they are offered at that price. 500 dollars is very good amount in India because rent for a 3 bedroom house in a great location could be 100 dollars. But, as income rises, the prices also rise. I think that as more and more foreign companies and investment come in, India will becoame as expensive as US or any country in Europe. That is what I expect globalization to do. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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        I see Bill Gates is giving 20 million dollars to IT education in India. Is that like, 3 cents a person ? It's small change compared to how much they can save by moving development work there, from what I understand of wages there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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        According to this[^] the $20 million is only 1/20th of the whole pie. I don't care what or where you're talking about - $400 million is a "chunk of change"!!!! Mike Mullikin :beer:

        Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap

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          I see Bill Gates is giving 20 million dollars to IT education in India. Is that like, 3 cents a person ? It's small change compared to how much they can save by moving development work there, from what I understand of wages there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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          The article I read had the figure at $400 million. 200 million to an education centre based in Hyderabad, and the rest to something else (I forgot what). Cheers The universe is driven by the complex interaction between three ingredients: matter, energy, and enlightened self-interest.

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            The cost of living is less because people consume less. Most people do not have cars and use public transport. Food and accomodation is extremely cheap compared to western price levels; because most people cannot afford them unless they are offered at that price. 500 dollars is very good amount in India because rent for a 3 bedroom house in a great location could be 100 dollars. But, as income rises, the prices also rise. I think that as more and more foreign companies and investment come in, India will becoame as expensive as US or any country in Europe. That is what I expect globalization to do. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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            Thomas George wrote: But, as income rises, the prices also rise. I think that as more and more foreign companies and investment come in, India will becoame as expensive as US or any country in Europe. That is what I expect globalization to do. And you would be correct. Like any other developing economy, until labor becomes organized, and the population feels they have a right to demand better healthcare, environmental rules, streets, policing, education, etc,. etc., labor is available at a discount, but as the standard of living increases, so do the costs, the taxes, and the wages paid all in lock-step. David

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              According to this[^] the $20 million is only 1/20th of the whole pie. I don't care what or where you're talking about - $400 million is a "chunk of change"!!!! Mike Mullikin :beer:

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              It sure is. If I had that sort of money I'd buy Vanuatu and move there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                It sure is. If I had that sort of money I'd buy Vanuatu and move there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                I'm sure you can get more than Vanuatua for that price including the relocation costs. Is it for sale ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                  I'm sure you can get more than Vanuatua for that price including the relocation costs. Is it for sale ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                  Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                  Colin Davies wrote: Is it for sale ? Everything is for sale. I reckon you could take over Vanuatu for a lot less, but then the UN would get upset.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                    I see Bill Gates is giving 20 million dollars to IT education in India. Is that like, 3 cents a person ? It's small change compared to how much they can save by moving development work there, from what I understand of wages there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                    Well why don't you then offer to donate 4 cents a person? In my country we have a nice saying that translates close to: "Put up or shut up..." ;-) Tomaz Tomaz Stih, B.Sc.SE

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                      If they are going to give it as software licences, then it is worth nothing to India. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                      Tomaz Stih
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                      Waiting in vain for some Indian to oppose this view and be extremely upset with it. :-( Tomaz Tomaz Stih, B.Sc.SE

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                        I see Bill Gates is giving 20 million dollars to IT education in India. Is that like, 3 cents a person ? It's small change compared to how much they can save by moving development work there, from what I understand of wages there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                        I heard that it was more like $400M. Cheers, Simon "From now on, if rogue states want to buy weapons of mass destruction, they're going to have to go on eBay," Mr. Bezos said.

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                          Well why don't you then offer to donate 4 cents a person? In my country we have a nice saying that translates close to: "Put up or shut up..." ;-) Tomaz Tomaz Stih, B.Sc.SE

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                          Christian Graus
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                          We have a saying too. Something about smelling what you're shovelling... My point is that when companies blow their own trumpets about stuff like this, it's often donations of product ( which in this case means each $200 is more like 2 cents ), and it's for their own benefit. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                            I heard that it was more like $400M. Cheers, Simon "From now on, if rogue states want to buy weapons of mass destruction, they're going to have to go on eBay," Mr. Bezos said.

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                            Yes, I quoted the 20M from several news feeds on CP, only to be told it was $400M, above. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                              Colin Davies wrote: Is it for sale ? Everything is for sale. I reckon you could take over Vanuatu for a lot less, but then the UN would get upset.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                              Christian Graus wrote: Everything is for sale Everything can be sold, but everything isn't purchasable


                              Who gives a f*ck If my life sucks ? I just know one day I won't give up Beg For Me/KoЯn

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                                I see Bill Gates is giving 20 million dollars to IT education in India. Is that like, 3 cents a person ? It's small change compared to how much they can save by moving development work there, from what I understand of wages there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                                Lost User
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                                Its $100 over 10 years, with a population of 1 billion. That makes 1 cent per person per year Revenue from M$ sales per year............ Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                  I heard that it was more like $400M. Cheers, Simon "From now on, if rogue states want to buy weapons of mass destruction, they're going to have to go on eBay," Mr. Bezos said.

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                                  The $400 million is investment in software production. The 'gift' is $100 million over 10 years, or 1 cent perhead of population per year :~ Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                    Its $100 over 10 years, with a population of 1 billion. That makes 1 cent per person per year Revenue from M$ sales per year............ Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Exactly my point - they can expect huge return on this investment. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                                      Christian Graus wrote: Everything is for sale Everything can be sold, but everything isn't purchasable


                                      Who gives a f*ck If my life sucks ? I just know one day I won't give up Beg For Me/KoЯn

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      'everything is for sale' is a truism. Obviously my daughter is not for sale, but most things are, if the price is right. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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