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    They're not as good at undo and cut-and-paste though.

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    Roger Wright
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    I've got an electric eraser, scissors, and a jar of paste that work nicely. ;P But I have a bad habit of running with scissors, so it's probably safer for everyone if I stick to AutoCAD.

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    • D Douglas Troy

      I sheepishly admit that I owned, at one point or another, each of those; expect that last one, mainly becaused I worked on computers and not WWII aircraft. I mean, sheese, I'm not THAT old. Oh. Sorry Roger. *snicker*


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      Roger Wright
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      All of my WWII aircraft were built from balsa wood and tissue paper, so I'm not too offended. :-D I admit to owning all of those templates at one time or another, excepting the last one. For those images I prefer photographs, anyway; a sketch doesn't bring out the subtleties of form and function like a warm, color photo.

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      • R Roger Wright

        These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        Lost User
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        But its the ability to transfer the data from the CAD program to a CNC tool to create the design that makes them so attractive.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          But its the ability to transfer the data from the CAD program to a CNC tool to create the design that makes them so attractive.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          Roger Wright
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          Yeah, I'm just waiting for one of those new 3D printers that's big enough to print me a substation... Maybe next year? :rolleyes:

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          • R Roger Wright

            These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            peterchen
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            Moar of these[^]

            Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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              Moar of these[^]

              Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
              | FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchy

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              Chris C B
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              I'm not sure I should mention this, but I still have all of those except the pantograph, in the centre drawer of my desk.* :-O I also have one of these! [^] :cool: * except the drawing board and T-square, which got moved to the shed by MrsLadyWife. :(

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              • _ _Damian S_

                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                I wonder if that is Oz slang or it has the same implications in other english speaking countries.

                If you would be happy about me calling you a tool, then no, it doesn't... ;-) Tool and Richard would be interchangeable...

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                Lost User
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                _Damian S_ wrote:

                Tool and Richard would be interchangeable...

                I knew I should have changed my name to Drawing Pin (thumbtack for foreigners).

                It's time for a new signature.

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                • R Roger Wright

                  These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  Stuart Dootson
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                  And there was me thinking you were talking about VC++6 and VB6...silly me :-)

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy

                    I don't know about that last one. It always seems to cost several thousand $$$. ;) Marc

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      tom1443
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                      I too had a large collection, and I still have most of them tucked away with the rest of my drafting supplies (in fact I started college as an architecture student so you can just imagine). But that last one I have never seen!

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        I've got an electric eraser, scissors, and a jar of paste that work nicely. ;P But I have a bad habit of running with scissors, so it's probably safer for everyone if I stick to AutoCAD.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        Roger Wright wrote:

                        But I have a bad habit of running with scissors, so it's probably safer for everyone if I stick to AutoCAD.

                        Given the per-seat price of AutoCAD ($565 at newegg), somehow I find that the more frightening choice.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • S Steve Mayfield

                          I think the last one was used by the person responsible for early Playboy Centerfold layouts :-D

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                          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Good Eye!

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                          • G Gary R Wheeler

                            I still own one of the IBM templates. And the mathematic one. And one of the steel erasing guides. And a triangle. And a protractor. And the first two French curves (but not the last one, alas).

                            Software Zen: delete this;
                            Fold With Us![^]

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                            Mike Winiberg
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                            I still have an IBM Flowchart template as well, and a chemical one. (Hobbles off on Zimmer frame...)

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              BarrRobot
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                              And nobody's mentioned the sexycurve Flexicurve, made by the Unique Slide Rule Company?

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Koen H
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                                Still have one for the flowchart. And indeed, it is a lot faster than Visio and stuff. That is, if you don't make mistakes because you have to start over from the beginning . But in the days we loved to have them.

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Roger, I'm taking a random shot in the dark asking you this but since you have been around for a while and clearly are familiar with diagraming I figure you'd possibly have a suggestion if not the answer. Do you know if there is a chart type (possibly something in VISIO) that one can use to diagram the flow of STORE PROCEDURE calls in the SQL language? Every chart type I’ve seen is either modeling the data relationship in teh tables or the data flow but for traditional programming languages and not SQL (specifically T-SQL since this would be for SQL Server) and so none of the provided types like variable types (i.e. STRING for VB verses VARCHAR/CHAR in SQL) are right and I'm not familiar enough with customizing VISIO to create a chart type myself. Any info or suggestions would b greatly appreciated. Thanks

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Fabio Franco
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                                    Man, you're responsible for reviving a long forgotten memory. I remember almost every one of those templates. Well, I never knew what they were for, because when I used them I was a kid (ok, some of them I ended up using at school). My father owned so many of them and they have the same colors and wow... Real nice...

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      These days we tend to take technology for granted, and most design is done using automated tools. Being an old fart, I spent most of my design career doing things the hard way - a pencil and paper. But that doesn't mean that we had no advanced technology to aid us. Back in the good old days we had Templates, lots of them! For those too young to remember, I offer the following sample of these high tech tools of old[^]. As a footnote, it is far faster to produce an electrical or mechanical design using these old fashioned widgets than with a modern CAD program, and they cost a few bucks each, rather than several thousand $$$ a copy. That's progress... :doh:

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      oleavitt
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                                      A do use those "high tech tools of old" quite a lot myself. I do electronics too. They are handy for whipping together a quick schematic or front panel layout, etc, and they don't "blue screen" when you're 99.9% complete on an important project. But that "newfangled" computer sure makes it easy to go online and buy the parts to put that idea together :-) trucker_lady_curve(point[] pts) - Oren

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                                        Roger, I'm taking a random shot in the dark asking you this but since you have been around for a while and clearly are familiar with diagraming I figure you'd possibly have a suggestion if not the answer. Do you know if there is a chart type (possibly something in VISIO) that one can use to diagram the flow of STORE PROCEDURE calls in the SQL language? Every chart type I’ve seen is either modeling the data relationship in teh tables or the data flow but for traditional programming languages and not SQL (specifically T-SQL since this would be for SQL Server) and so none of the provided types like variable types (i.e. STRING for VB verses VARCHAR/CHAR in SQL) are right and I'm not familiar enough with customizing VISIO to create a chart type myself. Any info or suggestions would b greatly appreciated. Thanks

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. But there's no reason you can't invent it. A lot of the diagramming and flowcharting I did years ago were done without any standards, either because there weren't any, or I'd never been taught them. It all worked out fine, so long as I knew what each symbol meant, and communicated that meaning to others with a need to know. Go for it!

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. But there's no reason you can't invent it. A lot of the diagramming and flowcharting I did years ago were done without any standards, either because there weren't any, or I'd never been taught them. It all worked out fine, so long as I knew what each symbol meant, and communicated that meaning to others with a need to know. Go for it!

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          One last question Roger. Any suggestion (URLs/Links) on some good Visio 'Built-it-Yourself' How-To artciles or similiar? I am a novie with Visio. Thanks

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