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  • D Dalek Dave

    I am not the only one then! :)

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    Slacker007
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    I am not the only one then!

    yes you are. :-D

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    • D Dalek Dave

      I am not the only one then! :)

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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      fjdiewornncalwe
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      He said "break" not "goto"... :)

      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Somewhere, God killed a kitten, AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! ;)

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        Oh god, dont talk about killing Cats, have you not seen the hoo-har in the last 24hrs.

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          I guess I'd move the nested loops into a separate function and called return instead, but that's really goto in disguise anyway :)

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          OriginalGriff
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          There are those who think a function should have a single return - I'm not one of them. I would probably do it your way - it's clearer than the "brain bounce" I get when I see goto in OO code.

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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          • P peterchen

            "and I feel fine!" (to say it with R.E.M.)

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            Mike Hankey
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            ooo sorry there will be a serious reduction of man-points and you may be reduced to writing VB code in the near future.

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            • J J4amieC

              Oh god, dont talk about killing Cats, have you not seen the hoo-har in the last 24hrs.

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              fjdiewornncalwe
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              mmm, Kitten Stew. On second thought... X|

              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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              • J J4amieC

                Oh god, dont talk about killing Cats, have you not seen the hoo-har in the last 24hrs.

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                Dan Neely
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                Not until after the fact. Kinda annoying since it leaves me wondering if someone really freaked over the parody of the old Harry Chapin song; or if there's better trolling material out there...

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  Somewhere, God killed a kitten, AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! ;)

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                  peterchen
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                  She had terminal cancer, and that's HIS fault.

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                  • J J4amieC

                    Oh god, dont talk about killing Cats, have you not seen the hoo-har in the last 24hrs.

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                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                    No. Have I missed soemthing?

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      You're a dirty little pervert! Somewhere Edsger Dijkstra's is choking on a Raise Error statement!

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                      It's the only action he'll get tonight.

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        No. Have I missed soemthing?

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                        Dan Neely
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                        Read the thread titled disgusting in bugs/suggestions. That'll let you see everything except the actual post that triggered the flamewar.

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                        • M Mike Hankey

                          ooo sorry there will be a serious reduction of man-points and you may be reduced to writing VB code in the near future.

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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          reduced to writing VB

                          Oh shiioot... is that what happened? But I swear it was in a switch! :sigh:

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                            I guess I'd move the nested loops into a separate function and called return instead, but that's really goto in disguise anyway :)

                            utf8-cpp

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                            Tom Chantler
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                            That's what I'd have done too. You're allowed to do stuff like that! :)

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                            • P peterchen

                              "and I feel fine!" (to say it with R.E.M.)

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                              So you're the one responsible the north korean attacks today... Shame on you!

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                                Mike Hankey wrote:

                                reduced to writing VB

                                Oh shiioot... is that what happened? But I swear it was in a switch! :sigh:

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                Oh shiioot... is that what happened? But I swear it was in a switch!

                                It's like wearing a pocket protector, once your caught wearing it your labeled and there's no turning back.

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                                  "and I feel fine!" (to say it with R.E.M.)

                                  Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                                  R Erasmus
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                                  If I had to test your software I would of raized a bug unfortunately. Its against standard. Not following a standard costs money. Might get away with this at your current job but will cost the next company alot of money... E.g. software tagged rev 1.0 unit test fix bugs... goto, 300 occurences. 300 occurences change source code, 300 source files software tagged rev 2.0 unit test 300 source files raize more bugs that was made on fixing "removal of goto's" fix bugs software tagged rev 3.0 unit test outstanding bugs deliver software amounts to $500 000, you just cost the company. have to retrench a few.:~ P.S. !please vote! A computer programmer is someone who, when told to "Go to Hell", sees the "Go to", rather than the destination, as harmful."

                                  "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                    If I had to test your software I would of raized a bug unfortunately. Its against standard. Not following a standard costs money. Might get away with this at your current job but will cost the next company alot of money... E.g. software tagged rev 1.0 unit test fix bugs... goto, 300 occurences. 300 occurences change source code, 300 source files software tagged rev 2.0 unit test 300 source files raize more bugs that was made on fixing "removal of goto's" fix bugs software tagged rev 3.0 unit test outstanding bugs deliver software amounts to $500 000, you just cost the company. have to retrench a few.:~ P.S. !please vote! A computer programmer is someone who, when told to "Go to Hell", sees the "Go to", rather than the destination, as harmful."

                                    "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                    peterchen
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                                    RudolfErasmus wrote:

                                    P.S. !please vote!

                                    OK, I voted a 3 ;) If the coding standard was "goto is prohibited", I'd follow that. Here, the disgust of goto is big enough that we have about a dozen in over a million LOC (hundreds in 3rd party code, though...) Regarding goto in general: it's a "jump forward", wich does not increase complexity. The typical solutions would be: (a) isolate the inner loop and "hide" the goto behind a early return (if permitted by standards, but requiring single exit makes no sense in C++ anymore). (b) introduce a flag that "bumps" a second break. Now, the first solution is ok to comply with a coding standard, but is complicated if the two loops need a lot of context from the calling function. Even if not, the code compexity is increased, the function needs a contract and additional error chhecking. The second solution increases complexity as well, and makes the code harder to reason about.

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                                      RudolfErasmus wrote:

                                      P.S. !please vote!

                                      OK, I voted a 3 ;) If the coding standard was "goto is prohibited", I'd follow that. Here, the disgust of goto is big enough that we have about a dozen in over a million LOC (hundreds in 3rd party code, though...) Regarding goto in general: it's a "jump forward", wich does not increase complexity. The typical solutions would be: (a) isolate the inner loop and "hide" the goto behind a early return (if permitted by standards, but requiring single exit makes no sense in C++ anymore). (b) introduce a flag that "bumps" a second break. Now, the first solution is ok to comply with a coding standard, but is complicated if the two loops need a lot of context from the calling function. Even if not, the code compexity is increased, the function needs a contract and additional error chhecking. The second solution increases complexity as well, and makes the code harder to reason about.

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                                      R Erasmus
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                                      Yeah it depends what you're coding standard says. I do software testing in c(structured programming). Statement such as goto and continue is unstructured. Breaking the code up into smaller functions can help with complexity (if you care about the complexity rating, otherwise complexity in general).:thumbsup:

                                      "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                        "and I feel fine!" (to say it with R.E.M.)

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                                        Let's not forget that one of the goals of well-crafted code is clarity. If a goto helps you achieve more clarity, it's more correct than dogmatically following heuristics as if they were commandments. On the other hand, if your code requires gotos for clarity, it's a sign that there may be other problems, such as methods that are too long. Refactoring (as someone else already suggested) is probably the next step that should be considered in this situation.

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                                          "and I feel fine!" (to say it with R.E.M.)

                                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                                          OMG!!! I can see the coming of the apocalypse !!

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