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Did Julian Assange Rape These 2 Women

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  • M Majerus

    Oakman wrote:

    So, I hate to break it to you, but you can't read minds, either.

    Unlike yourself, I haven't been pretending I could.

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    Majerus wrote:

    Unlike yourself, I haven't been pretending I could.

    How pray tell do you know I have been pretending to read minds? Did you, perhaps, tread my mind? Truly, I expected better from you.

    "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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    • O Oakman

      Majerus wrote:

      Unlike yourself, I haven't been pretending I could.

      How pray tell do you know I have been pretending to read minds? Did you, perhaps, tread my mind? Truly, I expected better from you.

      "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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      fjdiewornncalwe
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      Oakman wrote:

      Truly, I expected better from you.

      C'mon... Now really... I had to look at this guys posting history to verify, but I'm convinced that you are being far, far too generous by expecting better from him.

      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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      • O Oakman

        Majerus wrote:

        Unlike yourself, I haven't been pretending I could.

        How pray tell do you know I have been pretending to read minds? Did you, perhaps, tread my mind? Truly, I expected better from you.

        "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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        I expected nothing better from you and was not disappointed. In fact, I expected this exact response. I've had enough of this noise.

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        • F fjdiewornncalwe

          Oakman wrote:

          Truly, I expected better from you.

          C'mon... Now really... I had to look at this guys posting history to verify, but I'm convinced that you are being far, far too generous by expecting better from him.

          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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          Marcus Kramer wrote:

          I had to look at this guys posting history to verify, but I'm convinced that you are being far, far too generous by expecting better from him.

          ROFL. Ninety percent of my posts are unavailable to you since they are in a private forum. You are a fraud I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea Culpa, mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa!

          "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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          • M Majerus

            I expected nothing better from you and was not disappointed. In fact, I expected this exact response. I've had enough of this noise.

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            Majerus wrote:

            I expected nothing better from you and was not disappointed. In fact, I expected this exact response.

            Wow, you must be a superb mind-reader! But I balanced the 1 someone gave you with a 5. I never vote 1's and you at least have the balls to speak up.

            "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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            • O Oakman

              Marcus Kramer wrote:

              I had to look at this guys posting history to verify, but I'm convinced that you are being far, far too generous by expecting better from him.

              ROFL. Ninety percent of my posts are unavailable to you since they are in a private forum. You are a fraud I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea Culpa, mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa!

              "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

              modified on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:13 PM

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              fjdiewornncalwe
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              I think an explanation is in order for your statement, don't you???

              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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              • O Oakman

                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                I believe the idea of not keeping the mans name from the press is that it allows any other victims to realise that he has been caught and encorages them to come forward.

                I thought that, at least in the U.S. of A, a man was presumed innocent until proven guilty. You seem to be saying that the law has become that the accusation of rape (at least by a prosecutor) is tantamount to a finding of guilty - reminds me of the Red Queen: "Sentence first, then the trial!" (I am not saying you're wrong, by the way.)

                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                oh and the "women" movements do not feel that a man should be treated equal to a women

                Noticed that, have you? Amazing how often the concept of an equal playing field quickly becomes "let's give the advantage to the other side!"

                "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                innocent untill proven guilty applies to countries that have thier laws based on the English, europe however base them on Germanic/Napolionic, this would mean adversarial where once you enter the court room you are not guilty or innocent it is upto each side to argue the case and the judge/jury decides which they believe(like the look of, feel sorry for etc etc) so the idea that he is innocent untill proven guilty is wrong as he choose a country that doesnt work that way.

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                  innocent untill proven guilty applies to countries that have thier laws based on the English, europe however base them on Germanic/Napolionic, this would mean adversarial where once you enter the court room you are not guilty or innocent it is upto each side to argue the case and the judge/jury decides which they believe(like the look of, feel sorry for etc etc) so the idea that he is innocent untill proven guilty is wrong as he choose a country that doesnt work that way.

                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                  Oakman
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                  I wonder if Europe will ever see the light? ;)

                  "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                  • F fjdiewornncalwe

                    I think an explanation is in order for your statement, don't you???

                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    Oakman
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                    I founded Soap Box One as a place where people could have civil discourse - or semi-civil discourse, at least, and where trolls would be denied access. Had you actually looked up my posts, you would have discovered that you were denied access to them since entrance to SB1 is not permitted without approval. Had you even accessed my profile, you would have discovered I was the moderator of SB1 and not needed to ask this question. Your claim of looking at my posting record is an out-and-out lie, and you, sir, are a fraud. I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea Culpa, mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa!

                    "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                    • O Oakman

                      I wonder if Europe will ever see the light? ;)

                      "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      hey Napolean was a friend of your lot not ours, you adopted the drive on the wrong side so it highly possible that you may have adopted the legal system as well

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                      • O Oakman

                        I founded Soap Box One as a place where people could have civil discourse - or semi-civil discourse, at least, and where trolls would be denied access. Had you actually looked up my posts, you would have discovered that you were denied access to them since entrance to SB1 is not permitted without approval. Had you even accessed my profile, you would have discovered I was the moderator of SB1 and not needed to ask this question. Your claim of looking at my posting record is an out-and-out lie, and you, sir, are a fraud. I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea Culpa, mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa!

                        "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

                        modified on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:13 PM

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                        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                        Am I missing something here? from the way I read these posts he seems to be refering to the other guys previous posts not yours. and that you were wrong to expect better from him. But then again I am full of cold and wanting to go home so it is possible I have it wrong

                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                          hey Napolean was a friend of your lot not ours, you adopted the drive on the wrong side so it highly possible that you may have adopted the legal system as well

                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                          Oakman
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                          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                          hey Napolean was a friend of your lot not ours, you adopted the drive on the wrong side so it highly possible that you may have adopted the legal system as well

                          We drive our cars on the left; you drive your countries on the left. Perhaps we should both switch to see if it lessens the number of crashes?

                          "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                          • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                            Am I missing something here? from the way I read these posts he seems to be refering to the other guys previous posts not yours. and that you were wrong to expect better from him. But then again I am full of cold and wanting to go home so it is possible I have it wrong

                            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                            Am I missing something here?

                            Nope, I was. I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea Culpa, mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa!

                            "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                            • F fjdiewornncalwe

                              Oakman wrote:

                              Truly, I expected better from you.

                              C'mon... Now really... I had to look at this guys posting history to verify, but I'm convinced that you are being far, far too generous by expecting better from him.

                              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                              Oakman
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                              Marcus, I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. I have so defined myself in every one of my misbegotten responses to you. :-O Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

                              "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                                Marcus, I am an idiot. Occasionally a paranoid idiot. I have so defined myself in every one of my misbegotten responses to you. :-O Marcus, my sincere apologies for totally misunderstanding you. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

                                "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                                fjdiewornncalwe
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                                No worries, Oakman... Have a great Christmas. Your original response just confounded me a bit... Cheers.

                                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  No worries, Oakman... Have a great Christmas. Your original response just confounded me a bit... Cheers.

                                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  Marcus Kramer wrote:

                                  No worries, Oakman... Have a great Christmas. Your original response just confounded me a bit... Cheers.

                                  Thanks for your graciousness. Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year to you!

                                  "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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