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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Am I old or what?

    Yes. Do you remember how to low-level format a RLL or MFM hard drive?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    Dalek Dave
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    Wow, that was some time ago! I think there was a 10Mb HDD that I did it on before partitioning it (partitioning a 10Mb?), but that has to be 25 or more years ago.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Am I old or what?

      Yes. Do you remember how to low-level format a RLL or MFM hard drive?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      Henry Minute
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      Posted it a couple of days ago debug g=c800:5

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      • L leppie

        :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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        Andy Brummer
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        At my last gig my dev machine had 16Gigs because I worked with huge databases and .net processes that used 8-20Gigs of memory. That was interesting to say the least. The production servers had up to 128Gigs.

        Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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        • T twohowlingdogs

          I remember going from 2 Meg RAM to 4 Meg RAM and costing me nearly $300! But that was only 15 years ago. Then I was impressed when my new boss said he just bought a UNIX server with 700 Meg RAM! We thought we were on top of the world!

          I have nothing more to say.

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          realJSOP
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          My first 20MB hard drive cost me $700. 1MB of RAM was $1000, and you had to plug all the chips into the motherboard one at a time. If you wanted faster integer math, you had to buy /install a math coprocessor (8081 or 80x87) at $700 a pop - necessary until the 586 chips started to show up

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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            Jason Hooper
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            Nice, you got me beat by 4 GB :) I run 4 LCDs, all busy with stuff all the time. Wish I could post a screenshot of my desktop for those who don't see the "need" for so much RAM :)

            Jason

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              My first 20MB hard drive cost me $700. 1MB of RAM was $1000, and you had to plug all the chips into the motherboard one at a time. If you wanted faster integer math, you had to buy /install a math coprocessor (8081 or 80x87) at $700 a pop - necessary until the 586 chips started to show up

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              twohowlingdogs
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              Ouch. Reminded me of an ad I saw once. Found it again here.[^] 20 MHz Intel 80386, 2MB RAM, Cache all for a mere $8499! Apple's 5MHz, 1MB RAM for 'blistering' speeds! Then all the other ones. Prices are amazing! 10 MB hard drive for $3398! 300 MB for under $20K!

              I have nothing more to say.

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              • L leppie

                Dave Parker wrote:

                Wow what do you need all that for?

                Mostly for VM's. Nice to allocate 3G here and 4GB there and still have 9 left :) Oh, and Sharepoint 2010 development. 4GB just dont cut it.

                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                dan sh
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                Sharepoint and development! Are you seriously serious?

                "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Jeez man, I remember boasting about the size of my RAM about 20 odd years ago, and that was with QEMM! (Am I old or what?)

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                  Klaus Werner Konrad
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                  "Nobody will ever need more than 640 kB of RAM !" - Bill Gates, 1985

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                  • D dan sh

                    Sharepoint and development! Are you seriously serious?

                    "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                    leppie
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                    I have been doing stuff with it for over a month, and I am still asking myself that question. I think we are using it wrong :) They say Sharepoint is the new Access, perhaps if used that way it is good, but we use it as a glorified web frontend really...

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                    • L leppie

                      I have been doing stuff with it for over a month, and I am still asking myself that question. I think we are using it wrong :) They say Sharepoint is the new Access, perhaps if used that way it is good, but we use it as a glorified web frontend really...

                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                      Dan Neely
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                      leppie wrote:

                      They say Sharepoint is the new Access, perhaps if used that way it is good, but we use it as a glorified web frontend really...

                      Sharepoint.Intranet.Employer.com is much better than Legacy.Intranet.Employer.com, as I'm reminded every time I have to access something that isn't converted yet; this alone is reason to sing it praise.

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Jeez man, I remember boasting about the size of my RAM about 20 odd years ago, and that was with QEMM! (Am I old or what?)

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                        giuchici
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                        Not old, maybe just obsolete. And I always avoided QEMM and games that needed expanded memory. I had a weakness for extended memory and HIMEM.SYS. Damn it, I am obsolete too aren't I?

                        giuchici

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          My first 20MB hard drive cost me $700. 1MB of RAM was $1000, and you had to plug all the chips into the motherboard one at a time. If you wanted faster integer math, you had to buy /install a math coprocessor (8081 or 80x87) at $700 a pop - necessary until the 586 chips started to show up

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Poul_L
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                          And remember using edlin or copy con for making bat files I do so I must be old but it was so fun

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                          • L leppie

                            :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

                            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                            Michael B Hansen
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                            Welcome to the club (18 GB ;P) /Michael

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                            • L leppie

                              :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

                              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                              Alexander DiMauro
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                              I'm still only at 12GB ... :((

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                              • T twohowlingdogs

                                I remember going from 2 Meg RAM to 4 Meg RAM and costing me nearly $300! But that was only 15 years ago. Then I was impressed when my new boss said he just bought a UNIX server with 700 Meg RAM! We thought we were on top of the world!

                                I have nothing more to say.

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                                BrainiacV
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                                I used to sell 16KB of dynamic RAM chips for the Apple II that cost $600. The first terabyte storage unit I ever saw was at the '84(?) Comdex in Chicago and it was the size of two refrigerators (one upright and one on its side) that was basically a jukebox for 12" laserdiscs and cost $1.2 million. I'm looking to be the first on my block with a petabyte online.

                                Psychosis at 10 Film at 11

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                                • L leppie

                                  :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

                                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                  PSU Steve
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                                  My dev box here at work, courtesy of the US gov't... HP Z400 Workstation, Xeon W3550 Quad Core @ 3GHz. 24GB RAM.

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    Mark AJA
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                                    Sorry to boast, but my PC has two internal hard drives, both 459GB's (Total 918GB's) If that's not enough room, I can always plug in my external hard drive into one of the USB ports. The only time I need this much room is if I save lots of long videos as AVI files.

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                                    • D Dave Parker

                                      Wow what do you need all that for? I still find 3 GB plenty on my home machine (tho a little more may be nice occasionally for running more VMs).

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                                      Stefan_Lang
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                                      Minimum requirements as recommended by MS: 2 GB for Windows 7 64 bit +1 GB for Win32 compatibility mode +2 GB for VS 2010 for W7 64 bit That's 5 GB before adding tools, office suite, and of course the projects you're developing. Now if you want a similar VM setup as a developing sandbox, multiply by 2 and you'll find that even 16 GB will not last you for long...

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                                      • L leppie

                                        :) Works fantastically so far. All 16 gigabeauties of them. ;P

                                        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                        wbaxter37
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                                        Geesh, I remember ordering $7895 for an HP 85 64kB memory module for the lab I worked in during college. Seemed like a whole lot of RAM at the time.

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                                        • L leppie

                                          Dave Parker wrote:

                                          Wow what do you need all that for?

                                          Mostly for VM's. Nice to allocate 3G here and 4GB there and still have 9 left :) Oh, and Sharepoint 2010 development. 4GB just dont cut it.

                                          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                          Mike R Riley
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                                          As do I, but my system has 32GB of ECC RAM in it. It was the only motherboard I found with dual CPUs that went beyond 16GB. It can support quad core CPUs, but I could only afford 2.8Ghz AMD dual cores when I built it. I can run two or 3 VMs (using Virtual Box) and they seem to be pretty much full speed. They have from 2 to 8 GB assigned to them, depending on the OS (Windows, Linux, or Solaris). All told I have at least a dozen different VMs. For storage you need lots of disk space, too. So I have 6 500GB HDs configured in a RAID 5 with one as a hot spare. With the ECC RAM I reduce the concern of memory glitches, and with RAID 5 I reduce the issue of disk glitches (I had two drives die on me, but it still kept ticking). Everything runs out of RAM and any unused RAM is used as disk cache, so it is very, very fast.

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