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From what I've seen, their command and control structure is pretty good (they kicked the Russians out of Afghanistan and are doing a pretty good job on the US there as well), and if anyone thinks an order of succession wasn't established immediately after 9/11 are sadly mistaken. There will be little/no effect on their operations, and for all we know, Osama's death may have been the trigger to activate a number of sleeper cells around the world. Call me cynical if you want to...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Al Qaeda is an odd one, the best way to look at it is as a fast food franchise: Fancy committing a terrorist atrocity? We'll train you to our standards and you can slap the al-Qaeda stamp of approval on it. That way the cell gets more notariety if they succede, and al-Qaeda looks bigger than it really is. I even heard the view expressed here that al-Qaeda doesn't exist in any meaninful sense, it is more a figurehead organisation. The hope is that with the charismatic [apparently] OBL gone, they'll attract fewer nut-jobs willing to murder in the name of whatever. The problem is, as you correctly point out, there is an increased likeliehood of reprisals in the short term at least.
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Because that means airport security is supposed to go back to the way it was, the patriot act is supposed to get canned, and all this anti-terrorism, infinite war stuff is supposed to end. The goal was to catch or kill him, so it is over right? And yes, I am the conservative.
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History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The orgainzation and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place. After this incident which was condemed by every society, nothing happened in US. But Afghanistan and Iraq were burnt for searching. The same is happening in Pakistan now.
I really hate to reply on this subject but there are just so many things that are wrong in this post.
Umair Feroze wrote:
History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The organization and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place.
Your need to really do research on the history of Ayman al-Zawahiri and Bin Laden. Anyways, nothing happened? Then all of a sudden 9/11? How about the USS Cole and the Embassies bombings? Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam. I don't want to turn this into a flame war. There is the BackRoom to serve the purpose.
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I Believe In GOD wrote:
Japan
Evil despotic regime beaten by Allied Forces. Ask any Chinese to see how popular they were there, or anyone captured by them (especially the "comfort girls").
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Afghanistan
Beheading, stoning, public beating of women. Further repression of women who were only allowed to be medics as they weren't allowed to see a male doctor. Closure of education system to girls, and boys (the latter because most teachers were women). Drug dealing (contrary to their own idealogy)
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iraq
Man removed who gassed in the order of 100,000 of his own population, brutally torturing & repressing his people. Started a war with neighbouring country with little/no pretext.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Palestine
No direct US involvement
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Iran
Theocracy with appalling human rights abuses.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
Vietnam
OK they got that one wrong. 4-1 (with 1 result outstanding). What was your point again? Did you have one?
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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You really think your self got 4 points ? My English is not native , I find it very hard to express my self . USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights on Israel at Palestine . More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because She hate Islam , She Hate Leader who didn't corporate with her ! And Hollywood , show us as useless items in the movies . Again When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ? What about drug hat every USA home has ? What about the drugs between USA school kids ? In Palestine : Yes no direct involved Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ? You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ? what about the USA money help for Israel ? Iran : they fought Iran for nuclear peaceful nuclear they built not for human rights ! Please : TELL USA , to fix her mistake before searching for ours mistakes and judge us on them ! This talking is not for you in personal , I don't hate you , Nor I don't hate any USA citizen I just love peace , a balance ... People like you and me don't make wars , political are ! , And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
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people need closure. that's it that's all.
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I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932AFAIK, They dumped him at sea to prevent the creation of a physical "shrine" for supporters to gather.
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Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932I'd like to see his face when he realizes the seven virgins are all men...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Wreak havoc" May be you should search for this word , through USA AND Israel history. Ask the history about those ... Vietnam Japan Afghanistan Iraq Palestine Iran
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
I Believe In GOD wrote:
I know nothing , I know nothing ...
RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat ,
And you will always be ...So, you revere a mass-murderer of Muslims? You are correct. You know absolutely nothing.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
I really hate to reply on this subject but there are just so many things that are wrong in this post.
Umair Feroze wrote:
History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The organization and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place.
Your need to really do research on the history of Ayman al-Zawahiri and Bin Laden. Anyways, nothing happened? Then all of a sudden 9/11? How about the USS Cole and the Embassies bombings? Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam. I don't want to turn this into a flame war. There is the BackRoom to serve the purpose.
IdUnknown wrote:
Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam
Please let me clear a point over here. Islam never asked the followers to kill innocent people of any religon or region. If someone do this, he is not a follower of Islam. Therefore you cant say the rise of Radical Islam but the rise of Radical group
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
we are still out here making targets of ourselves
instead of ?? Even if I buy myself a shotgun, I do not see how this could prevent terrorism ???
A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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AFAIK, They dumped him at sea to prevent the creation of a physical "shrine" for supporters to gather.
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Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932 -
I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932Think about it. If we hung him up as a trophy for all to see it would just infuriate more Muslim people and create even more terrorists. We buried him at sea to show the rest of the Muslim world that we respect their religion far more than he ever did. The idea is to show we are respectful professionals in handling this. They think we're still a bunch of crusading barbarians bent on destroying the Muslim world.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
You really think your self got 4 points ? My English is not native , I find it very hard to express my self . USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights on Israel at Palestine . More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because She hate Islam , She Hate Leader who didn't corporate with her ! And Hollywood , show us as useless items in the movies . Again When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ? What about drug hat every USA home has ? What about the drugs between USA school kids ? In Palestine : Yes no direct involved Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ? You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ? what about the USA money help for Israel ? Iran : they fought Iran for nuclear peaceful nuclear they built not for human rights ! Please : TELL USA , to fix her mistake before searching for ours mistakes and judge us on them ! This talking is not for you in personal , I don't hate you , Nor I don't hate any USA citizen I just love peace , a balance ... People like you and me don't make wars , political are ! , And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .
I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...
I Believe In GOD wrote:
In Palestine : Yes no direct involved
Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ?
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You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ?
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what about the USA money help for Israel ?I Believe In GOD wrote:
USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights
on Israel at Palestine .So it is OK to apply human rights to Israel and Palestine? If so they can apply them wherever they want. Also, they haven't applied them to Syria.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because
She hate IslamProve it.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
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When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homelessWell the proper figure is 50,000. The rest were killed by Iraqi insurgents, the total is for war conditions. The order of magnitude that I gave for Saddam might be as high as 2 million, the most cited figure is 300,000 in peactime.
I Believe In GOD wrote:
and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ?
Beatings, stoning an beheading and removal of most basic human rights from all women. Despite the crimes committed by a few wrong-doing soldiers, I'd say the lot of women has gone up. Oh and the soldiers were brought to trail. ss="FQA">I Believe In GOD wrote:What about drug hat every USA home has ?
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What about the drugs between USA school kids I think the USians might be appalled at all being called drug users. Anyway, they didn't use religion as a means to get political power, then sell drugs contrary to their own religion.I Believe In GOD wrote:
And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .
I'm married to an Arab, read my profile. I agree the West sees the bad in the Middle East, Arabs are de-humanised into a block-threat bunch of terrorist nut-jobs, whereas most are peaceful and just want to get on with their li
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A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Mumbai
Thanks to call Mumbai not as Bombay :-D
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Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932If you think pictures weren't taken of the boidy, and video isn't available from the raid itself, you are sadly mistaken. It's just a matter of time before they surface for public consumption. Besides that, nobody in the terrorist world is claiming that the US DIDN'T kill him, so that goes a long way toward a certain level of legitmacy in the claim.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I'd like to see his face when he realizes the seven virgins are all men...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Hope he makes it down there soon. On friday it's his turn in the barrel... :laugh:
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932 -
A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The terrorists are still out there
Yes they are, we still have a lot of blow back from the Cold War and it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^]. Now this happened under Clinton, while being planned under Bush Senior. So who to blame is up to you and often depends on which political party you most identify with.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
wolfbinary wrote:
it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].
I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.
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Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)
Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
