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  • R Rage

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    we are still out here making targets of ourselves

    instead of ?? Even if I buy myself a shotgun, I do not see how this could prevent terrorism ???

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    realJSOP
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    A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      AFAIK, They dumped him at sea to prevent the creation of a physical "shrine" for supporters to gather.

      Watched code never compiles.

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      Johnny J
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      Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.

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        I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...

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        Dave Kreskowiak
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        Think about it. If we hung him up as a trophy for all to see it would just infuriate more Muslim people and create even more terrorists. We buried him at sea to show the rest of the Muslim world that we respect their religion far more than he ever did. The idea is to show we are respectful professionals in handling this. They think we're still a bunch of crusading barbarians bent on destroying the Muslim world.

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        • L Lost User

          You really think your self got 4 points ? My English is not native , I find it very hard to express my self . USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights on Israel at Palestine . More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because She hate Islam , She Hate Leader who didn't corporate with her ! And Hollywood , show us as useless items in the movies . Again When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ? What about drug hat every USA home has ? What about the drugs between USA school kids ? In Palestine : Yes no direct involved Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ? You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ? what about the USA money help for Israel ? Iran : they fought Iran for nuclear peaceful nuclear they built not for human rights ! Please : TELL USA , to fix her mistake before searching for ours mistakes and judge us on them ! This talking is not for you in personal , I don't hate you , Nor I don't hate any USA citizen I just love peace , a balance ... People like you and me don't make wars , political are ! , And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .

          I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...

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          Keith Barrow
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          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          In Palestine : Yes no direct involved
          Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ?
           
          You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ?
           
          what about the USA money help for Israel ?

          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights
          on Israel at Palestine .

          So it is OK to apply human rights to Israel and Palestine? If so they can apply them wherever they want. Also, they haven't applied them to Syria.

          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because
          She hate Islam

          Prove it.

          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          Again
          When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless

          Well the proper figure is 50,000. The rest were killed by Iraqi insurgents, the total is for war conditions. The order of magnitude that I gave for Saddam might be as high as 2 million, the most cited figure is 300,000 in peactime.

          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ?

          Beatings, stoning an beheading and removal of most basic human rights from all women. Despite the crimes committed by a few wrong-doing soldiers, I'd say the lot of women has gone up. Oh and the soldiers were brought to trail. ss="FQA">I Believe In GOD wrote:What about drug hat every USA home has ?
           
          What about the drugs between USA school kids I think the USians might be appalled at all being called drug users. Anyway, they didn't use religion as a means to get political power, then sell drugs contrary to their own religion.

          I Believe In GOD wrote:

          And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .

          I'm married to an Arab, read my profile. I agree the West sees the bad in the Middle East, Arabs are de-humanised into a block-threat bunch of terrorist nut-jobs, whereas most are peaceful and just want to get on with their li

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            Sandesh M Patil
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Mumbai

            Thanks to call Mumbai not as Bombay :-D

            Cheers,
            SMP

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            • J Johnny J

              Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.

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              If you think pictures weren't taken of the boidy, and video isn't available from the raid itself, you are sadly mistaken. It's just a matter of time before they surface for public consumption. Besides that, nobody in the terrorist world is claiming that the US DIDN'T kill him, so that goes a long way toward a certain level of legitmacy in the claim.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I'd like to see his face when he realizes the seven virgins are all men...

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Johnny J
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                Hope he makes it down there soon. On friday it's his turn in the barrel... :laugh:

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Rage
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                  Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    The terrorists are still out there

                    Yes they are, we still have a lot of blow back from the Cold War and it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^]. Now this happened under Clinton, while being planned under Bush Senior. So who to blame is up to you and often depends on which political party you most identify with.

                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    Umair Feroze
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                    wolfbinary wrote:

                    it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].

                    I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.

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                    • R Rage

                      Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)

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                      Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        Rage
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                        At least this would be much more fun :-)

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                        • S Sandesh M Patil

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          Mumbai

                          Thanks to call Mumbai not as Bombay :-D

                          Cheers,
                          SMP

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                          This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?

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                            This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?

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                            Just to prove that we are an independent nation and will not use the names given to cities by Britishers. Only thing I do not understand is that it took over 50 years to do so. Probably authorities felt Britishers may comeback and then they will have to re-rename the places.

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                              wolfbinary wrote:

                              it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].

                              I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.

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                              The VAST majority of terrorists are motivated by two things - politics and religion. Of the religious ones, yes, there are probably terror groups for some religions other than islam, but of those religious terrorists, the vast and overwhelming majority are islamic (and when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists). Islamic terrorists don't like anybody that doesn't adhere to the strictest definition of Islam, including other islamic believers. If you want to stretch the motivational factors involved, islamic terrorists are also politically-motivated. For me personally, it is simply "terrorism" regardless of belief system or motivation. In some ways (and depending on who you ask), most government could even be considered terrorist organizations.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              • J Johnny J

                                Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...

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                                It's not rest in peace. It is "rip in pieces".

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                                • R Rage

                                  At least this would be much more fun :-)

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                                  I'm pretty accurate with a rock, but I much prefer a stand-off weapon.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    9-11 was carried out with fucking boxcutters, so the official story goes...:suss:

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I really don't understand why people are so worked up over Bin Laden getting killed. Yes, I'm glad they nailed him, but in the end, nothing changes - for anyone. The terrorists are still out there and even more determined than ever to wreak havoc, and we are still out here making targets of ourselves. While people are out there celebrating, the terrorists are still doing their jobs. The price of libery is paid through eternal vigilance and the ability to act. My advice remains the same - arm yourselves. EDIT =========== I am also of the opinion that it's time for us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq. We did what we said we were there to do, and it's time to widthdraw.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 9:31 AM

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                                      wizardzz
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                                      Say you spot a terrorist at about 150 yards, what weapon do you run and get to put a bullet in his head? Or do you empty your 1911 clip aiming for the chest?

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                                        This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        99% of what politicians spend their time on is more destructive than random name changes. I wish mine would spend more time changing the cafeteria menus. :rolleyes:

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Facinating. I know enough people, you would surely have some colorful name for their types, who are plain too dumb or to clumsy to be entrusted with any weapons. And arming them probably poses more of a threat than any terrorists.

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          Most people like that also would find carrying a firearm every day too much of a hassle even if they went out and bought one in the first place. Sheepdogs are largely a self selecting group.

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