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  • J Johnny J

    I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...

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    AFAIK, They dumped him at sea to prevent the creation of a physical "shrine" for supporters to gather.

    Watched code never compiles.

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    • J Johnny J

      Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...

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      I'd like to see his face when he realizes the seven virgins are all men...

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      • L Lost User

        "Wreak havoc" May be you should search for this word , through USA AND Israel history. Ask the history about those ... Vietnam Japan Afghanistan Iraq Palestine Iran

        I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...

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        I Believe In GOD wrote:

        I know nothing , I know nothing ...
        RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat ,
        And you will always be ...

        So, you revere a mass-murderer of Muslims? You are correct. You know absolutely nothing.

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        • I IdUnknown

          I really hate to reply on this subject but there are just so many things that are wrong in this post.

          Umair Feroze wrote:

          History about Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden is quite bitter. The organization and the character were created by US government to defeat Russia. Afterwards, nothing happened. Then all of a sudden 9/11 took place.

          Your need to really do research on the history of Ayman al-Zawahiri and Bin Laden. Anyways, nothing happened? Then all of a sudden 9/11? How about the USS Cole and the Embassies bombings? Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam. I don't want to turn this into a flame war. There is the BackRoom to serve the purpose.

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          Umair Feroze
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          IdUnknown wrote:

          Or the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? I know it's not Bin Laden in WTC bombing in '93 but it was still a warning about the rise of Radical Islam

          Please let me clear a point over here. Islam never asked the followers to kill innocent people of any religon or region. If someone do this, he is not a follower of Islam. Therefore you cant say the rise of Radical Islam but the rise of Radical group

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          • R Rage

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            we are still out here making targets of ourselves

            instead of ?? Even if I buy myself a shotgun, I do not see how this could prevent terrorism ???

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            A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            • M Maximilien

              AFAIK, They dumped him at sea to prevent the creation of a physical "shrine" for supporters to gather.

              Watched code never compiles.

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              Johnny J
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              Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.

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              • J Johnny J

                I just read that his body has been dumped at sea. Now isn't that a convenient coincidence? I would have thought that the Americans would have revelled in showing pictures of their dead archenemy the way it happened with Saddam Hussein and others before him. They sure as hell wouldn't have "buried" him so damn fast... I smell a rat here (and I don't mean Bin Laden)... Maybe it has to do with your point of closure...

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                Think about it. If we hung him up as a trophy for all to see it would just infuriate more Muslim people and create even more terrorists. We buried him at sea to show the rest of the Muslim world that we respect their religion far more than he ever did. The idea is to show we are respectful professionals in handling this. They think we're still a bunch of crusading barbarians bent on destroying the Muslim world.

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                • L Lost User

                  You really think your self got 4 points ? My English is not native , I find it very hard to express my self . USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights on Israel at Palestine . More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because She hate Islam , She Hate Leader who didn't corporate with her ! And Hollywood , show us as useless items in the movies . Again When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ? What about drug hat every USA home has ? What about the drugs between USA school kids ? In Palestine : Yes no direct involved Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ? You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ? what about the USA money help for Israel ? Iran : they fought Iran for nuclear peaceful nuclear they built not for human rights ! Please : TELL USA , to fix her mistake before searching for ours mistakes and judge us on them ! This talking is not for you in personal , I don't hate you , Nor I don't hate any USA citizen I just love peace , a balance ... People like you and me don't make wars , political are ! , And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .

                  I know nothing , I know nothing ... RIP Osama Bin Laden, you were thorn in USA throat , And you will always be ...

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                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  In Palestine : Yes no direct involved
                  Like I gave you a gun and you kill your neighbor ?
                   
                  You think you will be the only one responsible for that , or I am responsible with you ?
                   
                  what about the USA money help for Israel ?

                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  USA didn't have the right , to apply human rights on us , because it didn't apply human rights
                  on Israel at Palestine .

                  So it is OK to apply human rights to Israel and Palestine? If so they can apply them wherever they want. Also, they haven't applied them to Syria.

                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  More over : USA make her self worried about Middle East , and human rights , just because
                  She hate Islam

                  Prove it.

                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  Again
                  When USA Invade Iraq she killed more than 100,000 , and make the other 100,000 homeless

                  Well the proper figure is 50,000. The rest were killed by Iraqi insurgents, the total is for war conditions. The order of magnitude that I gave for Saddam might be as high as 2 million, the most cited figure is 300,000 in peactime.

                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  and for Afghanistan you talking about beating woman , how about the woman that get raped by USA soldiers ?

                  Beatings, stoning an beheading and removal of most basic human rights from all women. Despite the crimes committed by a few wrong-doing soldiers, I'd say the lot of women has gone up. Oh and the soldiers were brought to trail. ss="FQA">I Believe In GOD wrote:What about drug hat every USA home has ?
                   
                  What about the drugs between USA school kids I think the USians might be appalled at all being called drug users. Anyway, they didn't use religion as a means to get political power, then sell drugs contrary to their own religion.

                  I Believe In GOD wrote:

                  And from our country middle east , you didn't see the women , and the kids , you only see our political and soldier .

                  I'm married to an Arab, read my profile. I agree the West sees the bad in the Middle East, Arabs are de-humanised into a block-threat bunch of terrorist nut-jobs, whereas most are peaceful and just want to get on with their li

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Mumbai

                    Thanks to call Mumbai not as Bombay :-D

                    Cheers,
                    SMP

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                    • J Johnny J

                      Yes, but they didn't have to do that so damn fast - and without ANY documented proof that it WAS the right body.

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                      If you think pictures weren't taken of the boidy, and video isn't available from the raid itself, you are sadly mistaken. It's just a matter of time before they surface for public consumption. Besides that, nobody in the terrorist world is claiming that the US DIDN'T kill him, so that goes a long way toward a certain level of legitmacy in the claim.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        I'd like to see his face when he realizes the seven virgins are all men...

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        Johnny J
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                        Hope he makes it down there soon. On friday it's his turn in the barrel... :laugh:

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          A shotgun by itself won't allow you to "prevent terrorism", but it will allow you to mitigate its effects if it happens to visit you personally (I'm thinking the Mumbai event from a few years ago).

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Rage
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                          Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)

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                          • W wolfbinary

                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            The terrorists are still out there

                            Yes they are, we still have a lot of blow back from the Cold War and it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^]. Now this happened under Clinton, while being planned under Bush Senior. So who to blame is up to you and often depends on which political party you most identify with.

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                            Umair Feroze
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                            wolfbinary wrote:

                            it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].

                            I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.

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                              Who am I to be allowed to shoot on people whatever they intentions are ? It is not because a bunch of bastards do it that I am to be as bad as they are: call me naive and idealist, I prefer the solution where noone has any kind of weapons, instead of everybody being armed. But I also know we disagree about that :)

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                              Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                Then the issue would be with owning swords, knives, and archery equipment, and eventually plain old rocks and sticks. Once again, nothing changes.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                At least this would be much more fun :-)

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                                • S Sandesh M Patil

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Mumbai

                                  Thanks to call Mumbai not as Bombay :-D

                                  Cheers,
                                  SMP

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                                  Rage
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                                  This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?

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                                  • R Rage

                                    This is something I did not understand, why would you want to change a town name everybody has been using for ages ?

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                                    Just to prove that we are an independent nation and will not use the names given to cities by Britishers. Only thing I do not understand is that it took over 50 years to do so. Probably authorities felt Britishers may comeback and then they will have to re-rename the places.

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                                    • U Umair Feroze

                                      wolfbinary wrote:

                                      it's not like Islamic terrorism is new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[^].

                                      I am so griefed on reading the term Islamic Terrorism. Can't it be only terrorrism? Do you have any knowledge of Islam? Islam condems the act of terrorism. Don't we have terrorists in other religions.

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                                      The VAST majority of terrorists are motivated by two things - politics and religion. Of the religious ones, yes, there are probably terror groups for some religions other than islam, but of those religious terrorists, the vast and overwhelming majority are islamic (and when was the last time you heard of a terror cell associated with the Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists). Islamic terrorists don't like anybody that doesn't adhere to the strictest definition of Islam, including other islamic believers. If you want to stretch the motivational factors involved, islamic terrorists are also politically-motivated. For me personally, it is simply "terrorism" regardless of belief system or motivation. In some ways (and depending on who you ask), most government could even be considered terrorist organizations.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      • J Johnny J

                                        Don't worry, John - The bastard is never gonna rest in peace where he's heading...

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                                        It's not rest in peace. It is "rip in pieces".

                                        "The worst code you'll come across is code you wrote last year.", wizardzz[^]

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                                        • R Rage

                                          At least this would be much more fun :-)

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                                          I'm pretty accurate with a rock, but I much prefer a stand-off weapon.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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