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Oakman wrote:
but calling what he originally wrote, "bilge," was hardly involving yourself in reasoned debate either
I didn't say the reasoned debate would be with me, now did I. I would have had far more respect for him if he'd come back and attacked my post in the lounge, or stated why I was wrong there. To go off and create an anonymous page elsewhere is cowardly though, so I am not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. With the greatest respect to the poster, he posted a rant that assumed a US-centric stance. Now, at no point in this post did he state that he was interested in this from the point of view of an American audience only. As this is an international site I took exception to the implication that a US point of view would be applicable outside the US (hence my comments on Syria). The mistake he made here was not to state that this was purely for US consumption, as we have seen so many posts where there is an assumption that the rest of the world will fall into line. I appreciate that my point of view here will not be popular with the US members of the site, but I have a suspicion that many none-US members feel the same way. On this point, I think we'll probably have to agree to disagree. As regards to whether I was being deliberately inflamatory, that was not my intention. My intention was to purely to point out that there are other POVs than an American one - granted I was harsh in my approach, but the sheer arrogance of the rant was enough to trigger my vituperative gene. I appreciate, also, that my answer probably comes across as arrogant, but that's kind of tough because you also know me well enough to know that I am arrogant to the point of upper-class. Had he stuck with his post to a personal attack on me, then I'd have been OK with it (it actually made me grin, and if I couldn't take somebody having a go at me, then I have no right to dish it out), but he has effectively said that we are all too stupid to understand his point of view. I'm fine with him thinking I'm a stupid ass, but I won't have him denigrating all the people who replied.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
I appreciate your measured response and I certainly agree that there can be other points of view besides the American, believing as I do that everyone has the right to be wrong. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I appreciate, also, that my answer probably comes across as arrogant, but that's kind of tough because you also know me well enough to know that I am arrogant to the point of upper-class.
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
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I appreciate your measured response and I certainly agree that there can be other points of view besides the American, believing as I do that everyone has the right to be wrong. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I appreciate, also, that my answer probably comes across as arrogant, but that's kind of tough because you also know me well enough to know that I am arrogant to the point of upper-class.
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
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Oakman wrote:
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
A classic quote. If it is original I shall use it and attribute it to you! <Edit> I see it is not original.[^] </Edit> Still good though.
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I appreciate your measured response and I certainly agree that there can be other points of view besides the American, believing as I do that everyone has the right to be wrong. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I appreciate, also, that my answer probably comes across as arrogant, but that's kind of tough because you also know me well enough to know that I am arrogant to the point of upper-class.
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
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Oakman wrote:
I certainly agree that there can be other points of view besides the American, believing as I do that everyone has the right to be wrong
:laugh:
Oakman wrote:
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
I'm screwed then.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
the bastardised abuse version favoured across the Atlantic.
Which is merely English of 3 centuries ago. And sicne it predates the English spoken in England today... English is already a dogs dinner of a language. No amount of misuse could make it any worse. :)
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Re: The Lounge, and some of you. Here's what I have to say about it, in detail: http://cqvis.zxq.net/CMT/POH1.html[^]
You write a long post about some politcal idea saying that this "they" everyone is worried about should be allowed to access your SQL data to a forum that explicitly forbids political discussions and discourages long posts, when you could have just as easily marked your post as long and posted it in a forum that allows political discussion. Then you get so angry when people take the piss out of you for transgressing the rules that you feel compelled to write a website highlighting the flames you recieved, thus reiterating the association of your name with the phrase "disconnected, paranioa raddled consciousness". Overreact much?
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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Oakman wrote:
I certainly agree that there can be other points of view besides the American, believing as I do that everyone has the right to be wrong
:laugh:
Oakman wrote:
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
I'm screwed then.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Oakman wrote:
Arrogance has never bothered me when it's backed by competence.
A classic quote. If it is original I shall use it and attribute it to you! <Edit> I see it is not original.[^] </Edit> Still good though.
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Dave, do you really think I would spend enough time on a site that used tweety-birds as avatars??? X| I am sure that neither the thought nor the phrasing is particularly unique to me, and it's possible that I have forgotten reading it, but I assure you that I am quite sure that I was not inspired by that site. Show me one with Sylvester on it and that's a possibility. ;)
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Thanks for finding that dead link for me. I probably wouldn't have noticed that for another month, at least.
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Thanks for finding that dead link for me. I probably wouldn't have noticed that for another month, at least.
You should link it as http://cqvis.zxq.net/index.html[^] or http://cqvis.zxq.net[^]
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You should link it as http://cqvis.zxq.net/index.html[^] or http://cqvis.zxq.net[^]
Prerak Patel wrote:
You should link it as http://cqvis.zxq.net/index.html[^] or http://cqvis.zxq.net[^]
Helpfulness: the cruelest cut of all.
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