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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Don't forget the odd/even rule... 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good Hmm, each bad version seems to be worse than the bad version before it... Which means 8 will be worse than Vista... That's a scary thought.

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Personally, I thought 95 was better than 98. Then again, I never had 98 SP2 or SE or whatever which was not free.

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Don't forget the odd/even rule... 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good Hmm, each bad version seems to be worse than the bad version before it... Which means 8 will be worse than Vista... That's a scary thought.

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Actually, XP was bad. Very bad. People tend to forget that it was awful until it was fixed as part of SP3 which, ironically, had a really negative effect on Vista.

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        • N NormDroid

          Nice rule, I'm gonner start me new website real soon and guess what; I'll be modelling on Win 8 :rolleyes:

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          :laugh:

          We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ruled by Frankenstein logic

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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            MecAlex
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            :laugh: Hopes are only illusion! Be patient, it is Microsoft: wait for 9 :laugh:

            We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ruled by Frankenstein logic

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              Don't forget the odd/even rule... 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good Hmm, each bad version seems to be worse than the bad version before it... Which means 8 will be worse than Vista... That's a scary thought.

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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              Dylan Morley
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              They should've called this one Windows Vista 2, Just watched a video, makes me want to claw my eyes out with a rusty spoon

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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                NetDave
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                2000 - Good

                2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    2000 - Good

                    2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.

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                    NormDroid
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                    2000/NT4 was probably once of the most reobust platforms I've worked on.

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                    • D Dylan Morley

                      They should've called this one Windows Vista 2, Just watched a video, makes me want to claw my eyes out with a rusty spoon

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Yeah, no kidding... When did "using a computer" start to mean "taking pictures, browsing YouTube, and posting on Twitter"? Two things I do infrequently, and one that I've never done.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        See the video.[^] I suspect it will need a new computer, still, I am sure I will be able to convince my wife that the one we have now is past it, it is 14 months old already!

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        See the video

                        Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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                          Dan Neely
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                          XP and later are also NT. The 9x codebase was put out of its misery after winme.

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                          • N NetDave

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            See the video

                            Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                            GenJerDan
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                            Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              See the video

                              Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                              Dan Neely
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                              NetDave wrote:

                              What am I missing here

                              The number of viable internal replacements for Balmer has dropped from 1 to 0. Sinofsky has jumped the shark. :((

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                              • D Dan Neely

                                XP and later are also NT. The 9x codebase was put out of its misery after winme.

                                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                Ian Shlasko
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                                Yeah, they share a codebase, but they're still separate product lines, and I don't know if the odd/even rule applies to the server lines.

                                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                                • N NormDroid

                                  With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

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                                  Rutvik Dave
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                                  When I saw news few months back that Windows 8 will be using Metro UI, I was hoping for rumor... but that was true. I cant believe they are using Metro UI for mainstream OS. I though they just figure it out that they cant use mainstream OS UI on mobile OS, but now who is going to make them understand that reverse way is even worse. Let's hope that you can change the theme back to Windows Aero. Mainstream OS UI should provide basic interface for client apps, and not tightly integrated apps inside UI as services... even if this is just for consumer version, They are trying to make users dumb after trying too hard to make them smart enough to use windows 98.

                                  It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.

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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    See the video

                                    Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                                    Dan Mos
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                                    It will have two modes for the UI. Normal => Wewen like or optimized for touch (tablet,phone, desktop with touch monitor if you like/have..). So, on the desktop version you can choose and/or switch between the two modes. :)

                                    All the best, Dan

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                                    • G GenJerDan

                                      Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      Except that mouse/keyboard and touch are two very different things, and trying to force them to use the same operating system... Well, Asus supposedly pulled it off with the Eee Transformer... So maybe it's doable.

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                                      • G GenJerDan

                                        Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

                                        Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                                        NetDave
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                                        GenJerDan wrote:

                                        Write once, run anywhere...OS version.

                                        I see. Force the least common denominator so that no hardware platform has any advantage over any other. Brilliant! But will it support cut-and-paste? ;)

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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

                                          Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

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