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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Don't forget the odd/even rule... 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good Hmm, each bad version seems to be worse than the bad version before it... Which means 8 will be worse than Vista... That's a scary thought.

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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    Dylan Morley
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    They should've called this one Windows Vista 2, Just watched a video, makes me want to claw my eyes out with a rusty spoon

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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      NetDave
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      2000 - Good

      2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

          2000 - Good

          2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.

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          NormDroid
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          2000/NT4 was probably once of the most reobust platforms I've worked on.

          Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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          • D Dylan Morley

            They should've called this one Windows Vista 2, Just watched a video, makes me want to claw my eyes out with a rusty spoon

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            Ian Shlasko
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            Yeah, no kidding... When did "using a computer" start to mean "taking pictures, browsing YouTube, and posting on Twitter"? Two things I do infrequently, and one that I've never done.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              See the video.[^] I suspect it will need a new computer, still, I am sure I will be able to convince my wife that the one we have now is past it, it is 14 months old already!

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              NetDave
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              See the video

              Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                Dan Neely
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                XP and later are also NT. The 9x codebase was put out of its misery after winme.

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                • N NetDave

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  See the video

                  Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                  GenJerDan
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                  Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

                  Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                  • N NetDave

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    See the video

                    Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                    Dan Neely
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                    NetDave wrote:

                    What am I missing here

                    The number of viable internal replacements for Balmer has dropped from 1 to 0. Sinofsky has jumped the shark. :((

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • N NormDroid

                      With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

                      Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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                      Rutvik Dave
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                      When I saw news few months back that Windows 8 will be using Metro UI, I was hoping for rumor... but that was true. I cant believe they are using Metro UI for mainstream OS. I though they just figure it out that they cant use mainstream OS UI on mobile OS, but now who is going to make them understand that reverse way is even worse. Let's hope that you can change the theme back to Windows Aero. Mainstream OS UI should provide basic interface for client apps, and not tightly integrated apps inside UI as services... even if this is just for consumer version, They are trying to make users dumb after trying too hard to make them smart enough to use windows 98.

                      It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        XP and later are also NT. The 9x codebase was put out of its misery after winme.

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        Ian Shlasko
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                        Yeah, they share a codebase, but they're still separate product lines, and I don't know if the odd/even rule applies to the server lines.

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                        • G GenJerDan

                          Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

                          Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Except that mouse/keyboard and touch are two very different things, and trying to force them to use the same operating system... Well, Asus supposedly pulled it off with the Eee Transformer... So maybe it's doable.

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                          • N NetDave

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            See the video

                            Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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                            Dan Mos
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                            It will have two modes for the UI. Normal => Wewen like or optimized for touch (tablet,phone, desktop with touch monitor if you like/have..). So, on the desktop version you can choose and/or switch between the two modes. :)

                            All the best, Dan

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                            • N NormDroid

                              With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

                              Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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                              I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              • G GenJerDan

                                Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

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                                NetDave
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                                GenJerDan wrote:

                                Write once, run anywhere...OS version.

                                I see. Force the least common denominator so that no hardware platform has any advantage over any other. Brilliant! But will it support cut-and-paste? ;)

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                  Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.

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                                    2000/NT4 was probably once of the most reobust platforms I've worked on.

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                                    Richard A Dalton
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                                    I still have a few Win2K VMs on my laptop. It's the OS of choice if the particular technology I need to play with will work on it. And now that hardware has advanced so much, it boots along like someone is chasing it with a hot poker. I really think Microsoft should consider re-releasing it with a few minor tweaks and save the money they waste each year making Windows worse. -Richard

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      I suppose there a future market explosion in screen cleaners.

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Hardware vendors don't make money unless people buy new hardware... And most people don't buy new hardware* unless either the old hardware is no longer compatible, or the new one is substantially better than the old one. * Exceptions for Apple cultists, since IPods/IPads have become fashion statements, and people will buy a new one just because it's a different color.

                                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.

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                                          Ian Shlasko
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                                          Ok, bad choice of words... Business users, as opposed to home users... NT and 2000 weren't meant for home use. XP was.

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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