Windows 8 UI
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Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
2000 - Good
2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.
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Unfortunately, your rule breaks:- 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad 2000 - Good XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good 8 - Should be good ;)
Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
2000 - Good
2000 was from the server branch, not the consumer products branch. IMHO, everything in the server line from NT 3.51 onward was great. True, a lot of NT guts were used in XP onward, but what we're talking about here is the UI in the consumer line of products.
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They should've called this one Windows Vista 2, Just watched a video, makes me want to claw my eyes out with a rusty spoon
Yeah, no kidding... When did "using a computer" start to mean "taking pictures, browsing YouTube, and posting on Twitter"? Two things I do infrequently, and one that I've never done.
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See the video.[^] I suspect it will need a new computer, still, I am sure I will be able to convince my wife that the one we have now is past it, it is 14 months old already!
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Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:
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Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:
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XP and later are also NT. The 9x codebase was put out of its misery after winme.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Yeah, they share a codebase, but they're still separate product lines, and I don't know if the odd/even rule applies to the server lines.
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With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.
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When I saw news few months back that Windows 8 will be using Metro UI, I was hoping for rumor... but that was true. I cant believe they are using Metro UI for mainstream OS. I though they just figure it out that they cant use mainstream OS UI on mobile OS, but now who is going to make them understand that reverse way is even worse. Let's hope that you can change the theme back to Windows Aero. Mainstream OS UI should provide basic interface for client apps, and not tightly integrated apps inside UI as services... even if this is just for consumer version, They are trying to make users dumb after trying too hard to make them smart enough to use windows 98.
It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:
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Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.
Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
Except that mouse/keyboard and touch are two very different things, and trying to force them to use the same operating system... Well, Asus supposedly pulled it off with the Eee Transformer... So maybe it's doable.
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Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.
Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
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With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.
Software Kinetics - The home of good software
I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.
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2000/NT4 was probably once of the most reobust platforms I've worked on.
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I still have a few Win2K VMs on my laptop. It's the OS of choice if the particular technology I need to play with will work on it. And now that hardware has advanced so much, it boots along like someone is chasing it with a hot poker. I really think Microsoft should consider re-releasing it with a few minor tweaks and save the money they waste each year making Windows worse. -Richard
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I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Hardware vendors don't make money unless people buy new hardware... And most people don't buy new hardware* unless either the old hardware is no longer compatible, or the new one is substantially better than the old one. * Exceptions for Apple cultists, since IPods/IPads have become fashion statements, and people will buy a new one just because it's a different color.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.
Ok, bad choice of words... Business users, as opposed to home users... NT and 2000 weren't meant for home use. XP was.
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I can agree with this. Win 98 to me just seemed like 95 with loads of extra unnecessary bloat bolted on like Active Desktop (which really slowed computers down at the time), the "Channels" thing and the channel bar which no one ever used, various other bloaty bits here and there to slow it down, etc. The only reason I eventually moved to it was due to drivers for USB devices requiring Win 98, despite the fact that the Win 95 version I had specifically said on the CD "With USB support". I never had 98SE though so dunno if things improved in that version and by how much. There were at least 2 versions of 95, if not more. The first one I had was an upgrade from 3.1 but not sure even that was the first version as it had titlebar animations on the minimize/restore unlike the animated boxes another version I saw had (unless that was a beta). Then I got a new computer which included 95 OSR2 which also had the OpenGL screensavers and other bits.