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  • N NormDroid

    With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

    Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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    Rutvik Dave
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    When I saw news few months back that Windows 8 will be using Metro UI, I was hoping for rumor... but that was true. I cant believe they are using Metro UI for mainstream OS. I though they just figure it out that they cant use mainstream OS UI on mobile OS, but now who is going to make them understand that reverse way is even worse. Let's hope that you can change the theme back to Windows Aero. Mainstream OS UI should provide basic interface for client apps, and not tightly integrated apps inside UI as services... even if this is just for consumer version, They are trying to make users dumb after trying too hard to make them smart enough to use windows 98.

    It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.

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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      See the video

      Thanks for the link. Wow, that looks incredibly stupid! While it seems reasonable for a mobile device like WP7 or a tablet, I can't see how it could possibly improve the UX on a desktop system. At least no more than any other Windows shell that any competent Windows developer could dream up an write. What am I missing here :confused:

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      Dan Mos
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      It will have two modes for the UI. Normal => Wewen like or optimized for touch (tablet,phone, desktop with touch monitor if you like/have..). So, on the desktop version you can choose and/or switch between the two modes. :)

      All the best, Dan

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      • G GenJerDan

        Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

        Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Except that mouse/keyboard and touch are two very different things, and trying to force them to use the same operating system... Well, Asus supposedly pulled it off with the Eee Transformer... So maybe it's doable.

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        • G GenJerDan

          Write once, run anywhere...OS version. Desktop/laptop, tablet, phone. Just need different hardware layers.

          Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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          NetDave
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          GenJerDan wrote:

          Write once, run anywhere...OS version.

          I see. Force the least common denominator so that no hardware platform has any advantage over any other. Brilliant! But will it support cut-and-paste? ;)

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          • N NormDroid

            With Windows 8 UI revealed wecan guess what the next generation of websites are going to look like.

            Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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            I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            • I Ian Shlasko

              Nah, Win2k was part of the NT line... 98 --> Me --> XP --> Vista -- 7 NT4 --> 2000 --> 2003 --> 2008

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.

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              • N NormDroid

                2000/NT4 was probably once of the most reobust platforms I've worked on.

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                Richard A Dalton
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                I still have a few Win2K VMs on my laptop. It's the OS of choice if the particular technology I need to play with will work on it. And now that hardware has advanced so much, it boots along like someone is chasing it with a hot poker. I really think Microsoft should consider re-releasing it with a few minor tweaks and save the money they waste each year making Windows worse. -Richard

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                • R realJSOP

                  I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Hardware vendors don't make money unless people buy new hardware... And most people don't buy new hardware* unless either the old hardware is no longer compatible, or the new one is substantially better than the old one. * Exceptions for Apple cultists, since IPods/IPads have become fashion statements, and people will buy a new one just because it's a different color.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    NormDroid
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                    I suppose there a future market explosion in screen cleaners.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      Windows NT Professional and Windows 2000 professional were not server lines. Windows 2000 became XP.

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Ok, bad choice of words... Business users, as opposed to home users... NT and 2000 weren't meant for home use. XP was.

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        Personally, I thought 95 was better than 98. Then again, I never had 98 SP2 or SE or whatever which was not free.

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                        I can agree with this. Win 98 to me just seemed like 95 with loads of extra unnecessary bloat bolted on like Active Desktop (which really slowed computers down at the time), the "Channels" thing and the channel bar which no one ever used, various other bloaty bits here and there to slow it down, etc. The only reason I eventually moved to it was due to drivers for USB devices requiring Win 98, despite the fact that the Win 95 version I had specifically said on the CD "With USB support". I never had 98SE though so dunno if things improved in that version and by how much. There were at least 2 versions of 95, if not more. The first one I had was an upgrade from 3.1 but not sure even that was the first version as it had titlebar animations on the minimize/restore unlike the animated boxes another version I saw had (unless that was a beta). Then I got a new computer which included 95 OSR2 which also had the OpenGL screensavers and other bits.

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                          I can agree with this. Win 98 to me just seemed like 95 with loads of extra unnecessary bloat bolted on like Active Desktop (which really slowed computers down at the time), the "Channels" thing and the channel bar which no one ever used, various other bloaty bits here and there to slow it down, etc. The only reason I eventually moved to it was due to drivers for USB devices requiring Win 98, despite the fact that the Win 95 version I had specifically said on the CD "With USB support". I never had 98SE though so dunno if things improved in that version and by how much. There were at least 2 versions of 95, if not more. The first one I had was an upgrade from 3.1 but not sure even that was the first version as it had titlebar animations on the minimize/restore unlike the animated boxes another version I saw had (unless that was a beta). Then I got a new computer which included 95 OSR2 which also had the OpenGL screensavers and other bits.

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                          As I saw it, 98 was 95 with the bugs fixed... Kind of like 7 is Vista with the bugs fixed.

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                            Yeah, no kidding... When did "using a computer" start to mean "taking pictures, browsing YouTube, and posting on Twitter"? Two things I do infrequently, and one that I've never done.

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                            QuiJohn
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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            Yeah, no kidding... When did "using a computer" start to mean "taking pictures, browsing YouTube, and posting on Twitter"?

                            Since Steve Jobs decided that's what would make a $500+ device magical.


                            He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I hate it when people touch my monitor... To enable the touchy/feely crap, you have to buy a touch-capable monitor, which will undoubtedly be extremely over-priced. Finally, great. First they try to make our phones not be phones - now they're trying to make our computers not be computers.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              Lost User
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                              Dang it. I'm going to have to keep my finger out of my nose. I'm not sure I can do that.

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                              • I Ian Shlasko

                                As I saw it, 98 was 95 with the bugs fixed... Kind of like 7 is Vista with the bugs fixed.

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                                Dave Parker
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                                I still see XP as 2000 with the bugs added :p Actually XP wasn't too bad. The remote desktop feature was useful, the server side of which wasn't in 2000 Pro. That's about it though, 2000 is still what I'd consider the most solid / stable version I've ever used.

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Don't forget the odd/even rule... 30 - Bad 311 - Good (Relatively speaking) 95 - Ba--A general protection fault 0E has occurred... 98 - Good (Ok, better than 95) Me - Incredibly Bad XP - Good Vista - Makes WinMe look good by comparison 7 - Good Hmm, each bad version seems to be worse than the bad version before it... Which means 8 will be worse than Vista... That's a scary thought.

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                                  Albert Holguin
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                                  Yep, I'll be skipping 8... I had WinME back in the day, I'd call that one of the worst! ...I'd rate Vista a close second from the bottom

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