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  • C Chris Meech

    That's proof of bacon being portable. :)

    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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    Oakman
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    Chris Meech wrote:

    That's proof of bacon being portable

    So is my belly

    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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    • G Gregory Gadow

      Naerling wrote:

      Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim.
      Never understood what it means...

      It's from the misty days of "Once upon a time" when all variables were arrays. The original keyword was dimension, which later flavors shortened to dim (the old comment indicator, rem, is similarly derived from the keywork remark.) A statement such as

      DIM v

      was just an abbreviated version of

      DIMENSION v(0)

      Crimeny, what are they teaching you young whippersnappers in school these days? :rolleyes:

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      Luc Pattyn
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      I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

      LET A = 1
      LET B = 2
      LET C = A + B

      Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

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      • L Luc Pattyn

        I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

        LET A = 1
        LET B = 2
        LET C = A + B

        Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

        Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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        Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they improve readability.
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        Gregory Gadow
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        Luc Pattyn wrote:

        Code sounded much nicer back then.

        Ah, yes. I recall those halcyon days when programming involved requests rather than commands. :-D

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        • L Lutoslaw

          If you knew BeFunge then you wouldn't say that. There is no BACON which would beat it.

          Greetings - Jacek

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          Lost User
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          I dare you to fight between the two languages. BACON would win without doing anything.

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          • L Luc Pattyn

            I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

            LET A = 1
            LET B = 2
            LET C = A + B

            Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

            Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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            Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they improve readability.
            CP Vanity has been updated to V2.4

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            Lutoslaw
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            LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it[^]? In VB .NET it is still a keyword but isn't used anymore :doh: .

            Greetings - Jacek

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Dimension almost makes it sound kind of cool... :^) Wikipedia quote: In computer programming, BASIC (an acronym which stands for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is a family of high-level programming languages designed to be easy to use. Never knew that's what it stood for either! :laugh: BASIC was used before I was even born though... Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean. Ouch, I guess I really lack some historical background knowledge for a VB programmer. Perhaps I should start learning FORTRAN and Lisp and get some historical programmer sense too :)

              It's an OO world.

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              Lutoslaw
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              Naerling wrote:

              Well, it is probably still used somewhere

              Some programmable calculators may support BASIC, but [citation needed].

              Greetings - Jacek

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              • L Lost User

                I dare you to fight between the two languages. BACON would win without doing anything.

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                Lutoslaw
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                The following BeFunge code generates the first 100 digits of PI:

                aa* v +------------------------+
                vp*9920p*9930< | Pi generator in Bef-97 |

                :09a*pa*3/1+19a*p09a*g:09b*v | |
                v_@# g*b90 p*b910 < p< | 7/2/1997, Kevin Vigor |
                19a*g:+1-29b*p19a*g::09v +------------------------+
                v*a90g*b90*g*b91: _v#p*9<
                g-#v_ 2a*+\$ v :$
                \1-aa*ga*+v p
                v1:/g*b92p*991:< *
                9b*p29b*g*199*g\v9
                v*b92p*aa-1g*990-<9
                g2-29b*p099*g1-:0^
                v -9p*b92:%ag*991 <
                #v_ 299*g1+299*p> ^
                09b*g:#v_$v
                v93p*b90-1<
                9*g199*ga/+.v
                v:g*992 <p*9 92-<
                v_29b*g399*p ^
                09b*g:#v_v 1
                vp*b90-1 < $ g
                199*g9`#v_'9,v *
                '0, >' ,299^

                Huh?!

                Greetings - Jacek

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                • S Slacker007

                  Reminds me of the Camel cigarette commercials. "I'd walk a mile for a strip of crispy bacon."

                  -- ** Jack of all trades and master of none.

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                  Henry Minute
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                  I've never tried Camel BACON. What's it like? (Apart from crispy, that is.)

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Dimension almost makes it sound kind of cool... :^) Wikipedia quote: In computer programming, BASIC (an acronym which stands for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is a family of high-level programming languages designed to be easy to use. Never knew that's what it stood for either! :laugh: BASIC was used before I was even born though... Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean. Ouch, I guess I really lack some historical background knowledge for a VB programmer. Perhaps I should start learning FORTRAN and Lisp and get some historical programmer sense too :)

                    It's an OO world.

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                    Oakman
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                    Naerling wrote:

                    Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean.

                    http://www.truebasic.com/[^]

                    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                    • L Lutoslaw

                      LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it[^]? In VB .NET it is still a keyword but isn't used anymore :doh: .

                      Greetings - Jacek

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                      Oakman
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                      Jacek Gajek wrote:

                      LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it

                      BASIC was designed to mimic assembler. Therefore, every command started with an Op-code. LET, SET and LSET were all used to declare a variable's value.

                      The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                      • O Oakman

                        Jacek Gajek wrote:

                        LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it

                        BASIC was designed to mimic assembler. Therefore, every command started with an Op-code. LET, SET and LSET were all used to declare a variable's value.

                        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                        Lutoslaw
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                        But neither VB 6.0 nor VB .NET weren't designed to mimic assembler. (I think so) Anyway, MSDN says (VB6):

                        MSDN wrote:

                        [Let Statement Let --- Optional. Explicit use of the Let keyword is a matter of style, but it is usually omitted.

                        Greetings - Jacek

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

                          LET A = 1
                          LET B = 2
                          LET C = A + B

                          Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

                          Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                          The quality and detail of your question reflects on the effectiveness of the help you are likely to get.
                          Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they improve readability.
                          CP Vanity has been updated to V2.4

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          If you like the let keyword you should check out F#. Everything is declared let there. As a bonus(?) it is even less verbose than C# :D

                          It's an OO world.

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                          • G Gregory Gadow

                            I'm rather fond of LolCode

                            HAI
                            CAN HAS STDIO?

                            I HAS A MOOD

                            IF (MICROSOFT AN WINDOWSMETRO) IZ HTML5_JS_ONLY
                            HAI
                            MOOD ITZ 'WTF'
                            BYE

                            KTHXBYE

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                            Alexander DiMauro
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                            LolCode really made me Lol! :laugh: So, basically, we would sit at our desks laughing all day. I like it! :thumbsup:

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                            • L Lost User

                              If Microsoft & WindowsMetro = HTML5_JS_ONLY Then Mood = WTF. End If. I do NOT WANT HTML5 and JS! Also, I'm considering cross-platform. So... Java? C++? Python? Bacon?

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                              adf999
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                              Very hard to beat Brainfuck. :-D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck[^]

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                              • L Lutoslaw

                                But neither VB 6.0 nor VB .NET weren't designed to mimic assembler. (I think so) Anyway, MSDN says (VB6):

                                MSDN wrote:

                                [Let Statement Let --- Optional. Explicit use of the Let keyword is a matter of style, but it is usually omitted.

                                Greetings - Jacek

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                                Gregory Gadow
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                                BASIC has been around since 1964. In those days, language interpreters were pretty rigid: computers simply did not have the processing power or memory to be very flexible. It was not until much later that LET became optional; it was retained for backwards compatibility and because some programmers liked to use it to help document an assignment rather than a comparison.

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                                • L Lutoslaw

                                  The following BeFunge code generates the first 100 digits of PI:

                                  aa* v +------------------------+
                                  vp*9920p*9930< | Pi generator in Bef-97 |

                                  :09a*pa*3/1+19a*p09a*g:09b*v | |
                                  v_@# g*b90 p*b910 < p< | 7/2/1997, Kevin Vigor |
                                  19a*g:+1-29b*p19a*g::09v +------------------------+
                                  v*a90g*b90*g*b91: _v#p*9<
                                  g-#v_ 2a*+\$ v :$
                                  \1-aa*ga*+v p
                                  v1:/g*b92p*991:< *
                                  9b*p29b*g*199*g\v9
                                  v*b92p*aa-1g*990-<9
                                  g2-29b*p099*g1-:0^
                                  v -9p*b92:%ag*991 <
                                  #v_ 299*g1+299*p> ^
                                  09b*g:#v_$v
                                  v93p*b90-1<
                                  9*g199*ga/+.v
                                  v:g*992 <p*9 92-<
                                  v_29b*g399*p ^
                                  09b*g:#v_v 1
                                  vp*b90-1 < $ g
                                  199*g9`#v_'9,v *
                                  '0, >' ,299^

                                  Huh?!

                                  Greetings - Jacek

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                                  Lost User
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                                  This code makes awesomeness in BACON. Bacon.BeAwesome

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                                  • A adf999

                                    Very hard to beat Brainfuck. :-D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck[^]

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                                    BACON is portable yet suits everyone.

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                                    • L Lutoslaw

                                      LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it[^]? In VB .NET it is still a keyword but isn't used anymore :doh: .

                                      Greetings - Jacek

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                                      Flo Lee
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                                      Its even more weird with VBA now, where object variables have to be used with SET:

                                      Dim something as Sheet
                                      Set something = Sheets("blah")
                                      

                                      The "compiler" will complain if the SET is omitted... LET... SET.. and then nothing. What evolution :D BTW my first and always mantra for VBA: put an OPTION EXPLICIT in front of every file! :)

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