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  • N NormDroid

    It's a debate, not a question.

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    To be or not to be.? That is a question. :-D


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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      To be or not to be.? That is a question. :-D


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      NormDroid
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      Nope wrong, you've omitted the ? mark. ;)

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      • N NormDroid

        Nope wrong, you've omitted the ? mark. ;)

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Did I?


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          Did I?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          NormDroid
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          The hand is quicker than the I eye.

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          • N NormDroid

            a. Throw back from C++ programming.

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            Quirkafleeg
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            Wrong - a is C-style casting, not C++

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            • Q Quirkafleeg

              Wrong - a is C-style casting, not C++

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              NormDroid
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              Splitting hairs :)

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Norm .net wrote:

                Good point.

                Holy cr_p! I'm going to the pub, we'll see what comes out after lunch! :laugh:


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                NormDroid
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                :beer:

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                • H hairy_hats

                  Which is exactly why this is more of a programming question than a "lifestyle choice" question.

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                  NormDroid
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                  I'd say more of a debate, but as we all know rules of the lounge, I'd say just go along with it and chill :)

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                  • N NormDroid

                    True, but you should know beforehand if the casting is correct.

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                    Fabio Franco
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                    If you do know something is not gonna be null, the cast is more efficient.

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                    • N NormDroid

                      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                      or B.

                      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                      Sahir Shah
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                      The second one sounds like some kind of hominid comrade Norm.

                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                      • F Fabio Franco

                        If you do know something is not gonna be null, the cast is more efficient.

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                        NormDroid
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                        To add... and the cast is a qualified cast.

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                        • S Sahir Shah

                          The second one sounds like some kind of hominid comrade Norm.

                          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                          Don't fancy seeing your code if you think b. looks like a great ape :rolleyes:

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                          • N NormDroid

                            For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                            SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                            or B.

                            SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                            B. I don't like to rely on exceptions for normal processing (they are slow and clumsy for that), so you have to check for null.

                            SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;
                            if (obj != null)
                            {
                            ...
                            }

                            While

                            if (e != null && e is SomeObject)
                            {
                            SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;
                            ...
                            }

                            looks ugly. Plus, if you are going to use obj as a SomeObject instance, then the former is quicker since there is only one check on the type of e

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              It depends.  (A) will throw if the cast fails while (B) will evaluate to null if the cast fails.  I use both depending on how I intend to handle the casting failure. /ravi

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                              jim lahey
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                              I'm with Ravi on this one.I use both, the decision if which one to use is purely based upon what I need to happen should it go wrong

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Not your name, your sig:

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                                Sahir Shah
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                                He's doin it on purpose to annoy you Senhor Vilmos. I thought you would have figured that out by now :D

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                                • N NormDroid

                                  For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                  SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                  or B.

                                  SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  It is not about preference. When I want an exception in case of type error I use A., and if I want a null I use B. I don't see a point of something like:

                                  SomeObj obj = e as SomeObject;
                                  if (obj == null)
                                  throw new InvalidCastException();

                                  Of course, in good languages casting is almost always a sign of a design error.

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                                  • R Richard A Dalton

                                    If an illegal cast is an exceptional (woah, that should never happen) situation, then (a) If there's a possibility that through normal use the cast might be invalid (e.g. Plug-in tpye code), then (b), followed by an If to check for Null. -Richard

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Richard A. Dalton wrote:

                                    Plug-in tpye code

                                    I don't have such problems with plug-ins.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      B. I don't like to rely on exceptions for normal processing (they are slow and clumsy for that), so you have to check for null.

                                      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;
                                      if (obj != null)
                                      {
                                      ...
                                      }

                                      While

                                      if (e != null && e is SomeObject)
                                      {
                                      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;
                                      ...
                                      }

                                      looks ugly. Plus, if you are going to use obj as a SomeObject instance, then the former is quicker since there is only one check on the type of e

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      (they are slow and clumsy for that

                                      No they're not.

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                                      • N NormDroid

                                        For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                        or B.

                                        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                                        Mike Hankey
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                                        I used to use A (C upbringing) now I kinda favor B.

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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                          SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                          or B.

                                          SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                                          www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Depends on the situation. Mostly proper casting, as occasionally, particularly when checking for a derived type.

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