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  • N NormDroid

    Nope wrong, you've omitted the ? mark. ;)

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Did I?


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      Did I?


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      The hand is quicker than the I eye.

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      • N NormDroid

        a. Throw back from C++ programming.

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        Quirkafleeg
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        Wrong - a is C-style casting, not C++

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        • Q Quirkafleeg

          Wrong - a is C-style casting, not C++

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          NormDroid
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          Splitting hairs :)

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Norm .net wrote:

            Good point.

            Holy cr_p! I'm going to the pub, we'll see what comes out after lunch! :laugh:


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            NormDroid
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            :beer:

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            • H hairy_hats

              Which is exactly why this is more of a programming question than a "lifestyle choice" question.

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              NormDroid
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              I'd say more of a debate, but as we all know rules of the lounge, I'd say just go along with it and chill :)

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              • N NormDroid

                True, but you should know beforehand if the casting is correct.

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                Fabio Franco
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                If you do know something is not gonna be null, the cast is more efficient.

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                • N NormDroid

                  For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                  SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                  or B.

                  SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                  Sahir Shah
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                  The second one sounds like some kind of hominid comrade Norm.

                  Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                  • F Fabio Franco

                    If you do know something is not gonna be null, the cast is more efficient.

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                    NormDroid
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                    To add... and the cast is a qualified cast.

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                    • S Sahir Shah

                      The second one sounds like some kind of hominid comrade Norm.

                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                      NormDroid
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                      Don't fancy seeing your code if you think b. looks like a great ape :rolleyes:

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                      • N NormDroid

                        For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                        or B.

                        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        B. I don't like to rely on exceptions for normal processing (they are slow and clumsy for that), so you have to check for null.

                        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;
                        if (obj != null)
                        {
                        ...
                        }

                        While

                        if (e != null && e is SomeObject)
                        {
                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;
                        ...
                        }

                        looks ugly. Plus, if you are going to use obj as a SomeObject instance, then the former is quicker since there is only one check on the type of e

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          It depends.  (A) will throw if the cast fails while (B) will evaluate to null if the cast fails.  I use both depending on how I intend to handle the casting failure. /ravi

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                          jim lahey
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                          I'm with Ravi on this one.I use both, the decision if which one to use is purely based upon what I need to happen should it go wrong

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            Not your name, your sig:

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                            Sahir Shah
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                            He's doin it on purpose to annoy you Senhor Vilmos. I thought you would have figured that out by now :D

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                            • N NormDroid

                              For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                              SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                              or B.

                              SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
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                              It is not about preference. When I want an exception in case of type error I use A., and if I want a null I use B. I don't see a point of something like:

                              SomeObj obj = e as SomeObject;
                              if (obj == null)
                              throw new InvalidCastException();

                              Of course, in good languages casting is almost always a sign of a design error.

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                              • R Richard A Dalton

                                If an illegal cast is an exceptional (woah, that should never happen) situation, then (a) If there's a possibility that through normal use the cast might be invalid (e.g. Plug-in tpye code), then (b), followed by an If to check for Null. -Richard

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Richard A. Dalton wrote:

                                Plug-in tpye code

                                I don't have such problems with plug-ins.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  B. I don't like to rely on exceptions for normal processing (they are slow and clumsy for that), so you have to check for null.

                                  SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;
                                  if (obj != null)
                                  {
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  While

                                  if (e != null && e is SomeObject)
                                  {
                                  SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  looks ugly. Plus, if you are going to use obj as a SomeObject instance, then the former is quicker since there is only one check on the type of e

                                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  (they are slow and clumsy for that

                                  No they're not.

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                                  • N NormDroid

                                    For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                    or B.

                                    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                                    Mike Hankey
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                                    I used to use A (C upbringing) now I kinda favor B.

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                                    • N NormDroid

                                      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                      or B.

                                      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                                      www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Depends on the situation. Mostly proper casting, as occasionally, particularly when checking for a derived type.

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                                      • N NormDroid

                                        :beer:

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        Don't mind if I do. :beer: yourself.


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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          The hand is quicker than the I eye.

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                                          Sahir Shah
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                                          Norm .net wrote:

                                          The hand is quicker than the I eye

                                          Too much hand is bad for the eye.

                                          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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