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c# Casting v As operator

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    B. I don't like to rely on exceptions for normal processing (they are slow and clumsy for that), so you have to check for null.

    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;
    if (obj != null)
    {
    ...
    }

    While

    if (e != null && e is SomeObject)
    {
    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;
    ...
    }

    looks ugly. Plus, if you are going to use obj as a SomeObject instance, then the former is quicker since there is only one check on the type of e

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    (they are slow and clumsy for that

    No they're not.

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      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

      or B.

      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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      Mike Hankey
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      I used to use A (C upbringing) now I kinda favor B.

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        For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

        or B.

        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Depends on the situation. Mostly proper casting, as occasionally, particularly when checking for a derived type.

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          :beer:

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          • N NormDroid

            The hand is quicker than the I eye.

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            Norm .net wrote:

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            Too much hand is bad for the eye.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              It is not about preference. When I want an exception in case of type error I use A., and if I want a null I use B. I don't see a point of something like:

              SomeObj obj = e as SomeObject;
              if (obj == null)
              throw new InvalidCastException();

              Of course, in good languages casting is almost always a sign of a design error.

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              I use A and never get an Exception, what are you people doing? :confused:

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                I use A and never get an Exception, what are you people doing? :confused:

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                what are you people doing?

                SomeType obj = (SomeType)BloatedUglyUnreadableFrameworkFactory.CreateObject(someXMLStringThatIHopeWorksSometimesButNeverKnowForSure);

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                • N NormDroid

                  For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                  SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                  or B.

                  SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  As is for poor programmers. If you know that e always is SomeObject then e should be typed as such using some other method. Otherwise you always have to check the result of the as operation. So then you have the following two scenarios which must always be in case A or case B:

                  if(e is SomeObject){
                  SomeObject someObject = (SomeObject)e;
                  }

                  or

                  SomeObject someobject = e as SomeObject;
                  if(someObject != null){

                  }

                  But then in case by I always here the response ... but I know e is always SomeObject. Really then maybe it should be defined as such. The AS operator is designed solely to support developers that don't have a fundamental concept of type. After all, for all of the time I have seen the is operator used with a subsequent cast, checking for null after the AS is a white rhinoceros.

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                  • N NormDroid

                    For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                    or B.

                    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                    www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                    The first when I need the exception, the second when I need the null. Because face it, e is never what you need it to be.

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      As is for poor programmers. If you know that e always is SomeObject then e should be typed as such using some other method. Otherwise you always have to check the result of the as operation. So then you have the following two scenarios which must always be in case A or case B:

                      if(e is SomeObject){
                      SomeObject someObject = (SomeObject)e;
                      }

                      or

                      SomeObject someobject = e as SomeObject;
                      if(someObject != null){

                      }

                      But then in case by I always here the response ... but I know e is always SomeObject. Really then maybe it should be defined as such. The AS operator is designed solely to support developers that don't have a fundamental concept of type. After all, for all of the time I have seen the is operator used with a subsequent cast, checking for null after the AS is a white rhinoceros.

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      Thanks Ennis - I'm a poor programmer then because I use as, rather than the double cast, which is doing the same work again. What happens internally with as is that it checks to see if the variable is of the type, and if it is it returns a non-null pointer to that type. With the is operator, you check to see if it is of the type and then you cast it - which still determines internally whether or not it belongs to that type (this is how it throws an InvalidTypeException). In any case where you are using code-discovery, such as IoC, then the as call is more efficient. [Edit]I should add that this relates to our plugin code where the client provides their own logic, and "forgets" to implement the appropriate interfaces.[/Edit]

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                        Richard A. Dalton wrote:

                        Plug-in tpye code

                        I don't have such problems with plug-ins.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        You have better clients than we do then. You tell them, you must implement this interface in order for this to work, and bam they completely fail to implement the interface.

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                          The first when I need the exception, the second when I need the null. Because face it, e is never what you need it to be.

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                          peterchen wrote:

                          Because face it, e is never what you need it to be.

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                            Don't fancy seeing your code if you think b. looks like a great ape :rolleyes:

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                            Sahir Shah
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                            Somebody didn't read the subject of the post.

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              what are you people doing?

                              SomeType obj = (SomeType)BloatedUglyUnreadableFrameworkFactory.CreateObject(someXMLStringThatIHopeWorksSometimesButNeverKnowForSure);

                              utf8-cpp

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                              You've been reading java code on the throne again haven't you? :)

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                                Somebody didn't read the subject of the post.

                                Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                                :wtf: are you going on about.

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                                • N NormDroid

                                  I'd say more of a debate, but as we all know rules of the lounge, I'd say just go along with it and chill :)

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                                  I seem to have upset some voters along the way. :-D

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                                    :wtf: are you going on about.

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                                    Sahir seems to be comparing C# casts with a handler of equine animals.

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                                      Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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                                        Sahir seems to be comparing C# casts with a handler of equine animals.

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                                        :) Indeed, at this rate he's going to hit an exception that he may not like.

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                                          For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                          SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                          or B.

                                          SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                                          www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                                          I prefer directly throwing. :)

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