Adieu
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Oakman wrote:
This is not the Code Project that used to exist
Agreed. It was a lot more fun before everyone had to be politically correct to post. Kid-sister? Shya... Right.
Oakman wrote:
and the vicious and personal attacks that you and others have undergone
I must have missed those. I've never seen any "vicious personal attacks" against VB coders in general, nor Elain in particular. Of course, I don't read every thread...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I've never seen any "vicious personal attacks" against VB coders in general
I haven't seen any either and I code daily in VB.NET There is the usual any other language V VB.NET and there always will be, but hey I get plenty of work in the language so who cares :-D
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Sad to see someone leave the community because of something like this... Good luck with whatever you choose to do (stay or go) but hopefully you'll reconsider.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I just want to add my hope that you reconsider. The last 10 years of my career have been in VB6/VBA and some VB.NET, and while I, at times, really have to agree with John Simmons regarding the... umm... idiosyncracies (Yeah! good word!) of the language, it does (still and usually) get the job done. It's always popular to take swings at out-moded tech (COBOL, VB, Windows.... :D) but any criticisms should always be pointed at the technology, and not the users of the technology (i.e. us!). We can, and should, take (constructive) criticism of our use (or misuse) of the technology, but the line between joking and offense is easily crossed. I hope that those that offended you feel sufficiently guilty for causing you distress, and I also hope you will rise above and re-join us when you feel up to it. :rose: -EM
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Oakman wrote:
This is not the Code Project that used to exist
Agreed. It was a lot more fun before everyone had to be politically correct to post. Kid-sister? Shya... Right.
Oakman wrote:
and the vicious and personal attacks that you and others have undergone
I must have missed those. I've never seen any "vicious personal attacks" against VB coders in general, nor Elain in particular. Of course, I don't read every thread...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I must have missed those.
Or didn't recognize them when you saw them. No-one has ever accused you of being particularly sensitive to how anyone else feels.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Do tell me this is April 1st?????? You've just got to look beyond the elitism.......its the internet after all, you will find that and all the other nonsense elsewhere. Things will not be the same, whose going to keep us educated on telly specs and other lounge chat??? :(
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So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
Sympathetic as ever. :rolleyes:
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Elaine, I haven't seen the attacks you mention. I code in VB (or any other language) when needed. I sincerely hope that Chris decides not to delete your account and that you have a change of heart. I always enjoy your wit and observations. If someone does indeed attack you here, ignore them -- they are the worse off for it, not you. If you really are serious, I wish you the best and hope that you have success in all your endeavors. But most all of us are hoping this is just some sort of joke you are playing on us all.
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Sympathetic as ever. :rolleyes:
Why should she have sympathy given what she has said? Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted. Finally she is doing the decent thing and deleting her own account. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I agree with the elitism charge, having been a victim of it myself. And it does get a bit tiring. I've decided to ignore most of it. VB is certainly held in low regard here, and as a result, it receives a fair amount of flak. But, I think most of it (at least all that I have seen) is meant as good-natured fun. I'm quite sure any ridicule you have seen was not meant personal. Whether it was or not, perhaps you should consider the source. "If you take offense when none is intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when it IS intended, you're an even greater fool." -- Unknown
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I must have missed those.
Or didn't recognize them when you saw them. No-one has ever accused you of being particularly sensitive to how anyone else feels.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
I think I would have recognized it when I saw it (and I've seen at least one, but that was about 8 years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
That was uncalled for.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Why should she have sympathy given what she has said? Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted. Finally she is doing the decent thing and deleting her own account. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
She isn't well. Kick a woman while she's down, why don't you?
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That was uncalled for.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Dont worry, its nothing undeserved. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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She isn't well. Kick a woman while she's down, why don't you?
viaducting wrote:
She isn't well.
As in...
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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I always pictured you as a brunette, but don't ask me why. I've observed that hair color has no bearing on a person's abilities or proclivities. Regarding VB, if you code in it and like it, that's fine. I code in it and most definitely don't like it, which is also fine. Everyone here that pays attention knows my current job requires it, and that I don't like, and I get a certain amount of good-natured flac for it. I didn't even know you coded in VB - or I had forgotten. I think you're overreacting.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I always pictured you as a brunette, but don't ask me why.
Same here, actually. I refrained from posting that because I doubt it would mend anything, but it's still strange. And now that you broke the ice..
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Trollslayer wrote:
Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic.
I thought it was just friendly teasing... I used to program in VB... And my hair used to be blond! (Darkened in my teens).
Trollslayer wrote:
I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level.
That's not an insult... That's an opportunity! It's like the perfect setup for a punchline, when you make them eat their words later. Anyway... If you really want to skip town, that's your choice. Suddenly this is reminding me of the farewell message I wrote to my Warcraft guild after five years... I don't regret leaving WoW, but I do miss hanging out with them sometimes. So, good travels to ya... We'll probably still be here if you decide to come back.
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I can only presume you are under a lot of stress. Never give up, stick it through, and you will garner everyone's respect, most of which your own.
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
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I agree with the elitism charge, having been a victim of it myself. And it does get a bit tiring. I've decided to ignore most of it. VB is certainly held in low regard here, and as a result, it receives a fair amount of flak. But, I think most of it (at least all that I have seen) is meant as good-natured fun. I'm quite sure any ridicule you have seen was not meant personal. Whether it was or not, perhaps you should consider the source. "If you take offense when none is intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when it IS intended, you're an even greater fool." -- Unknown
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM