Adieu
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I agree with the elitism charge, having been a victim of it myself. And it does get a bit tiring. I've decided to ignore most of it. VB is certainly held in low regard here, and as a result, it receives a fair amount of flak. But, I think most of it (at least all that I have seen) is meant as good-natured fun. I'm quite sure any ridicule you have seen was not meant personal. Whether it was or not, perhaps you should consider the source. "If you take offense when none is intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when it IS intended, you're an even greater fool." -- Unknown
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I must have missed those.
Or didn't recognize them when you saw them. No-one has ever accused you of being particularly sensitive to how anyone else feels.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
I think I would have recognized it when I saw it (and I've seen at least one, but that was about 8 years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
That was uncalled for.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
That was uncalled for.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Dont worry, its nothing undeserved. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Why should she have sympathy given what she has said? Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted. Finally she is doing the decent thing and deleting her own account. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
She isn't well. Kick a woman while she's down, why don't you?
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
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She isn't well. Kick a woman while she's down, why don't you?
viaducting wrote:
She isn't well.
As in...
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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I always pictured you as a brunette, but don't ask me why. I've observed that hair color has no bearing on a person's abilities or proclivities. Regarding VB, if you code in it and like it, that's fine. I code in it and most definitely don't like it, which is also fine. Everyone here that pays attention knows my current job requires it, and that I don't like, and I get a certain amount of good-natured flac for it. I didn't even know you coded in VB - or I had forgotten. I think you're overreacting.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I always pictured you as a brunette, but don't ask me why.
Same here, actually. I refrained from posting that because I doubt it would mend anything, but it's still strange. And now that you broke the ice..
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Trollslayer wrote:
Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic.
I thought it was just friendly teasing... I used to program in VB... And my hair used to be blond! (Darkened in my teens).
Trollslayer wrote:
I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level.
That's not an insult... That's an opportunity! It's like the perfect setup for a punchline, when you make them eat their words later. Anyway... If you really want to skip town, that's your choice. Suddenly this is reminding me of the farewell message I wrote to my Warcraft guild after five years... I don't regret leaving WoW, but I do miss hanging out with them sometimes. So, good travels to ya... We'll probably still be here if you decide to come back.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I can only presume you are under a lot of stress. Never give up, stick it through, and you will garner everyone's respect, most of which your own.
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
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I agree with the elitism charge, having been a victim of it myself. And it does get a bit tiring. I've decided to ignore most of it. VB is certainly held in low regard here, and as a result, it receives a fair amount of flak. But, I think most of it (at least all that I have seen) is meant as good-natured fun. I'm quite sure any ridicule you have seen was not meant personal. Whether it was or not, perhaps you should consider the source. "If you take offense when none is intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when it IS intended, you're an even greater fool." -- Unknown
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
I hate to hear that you are leaving. When I'm down I purposely look for certain people's comments in the lounge because I know they'll have that right mix of sarcasm, wit, and hilarity that'll bring a smile to my face. You are one of those individuals and will be sorely missed. Whether than leave why not take a breather and get away from things for a while. When things have improved in your personal life, then take another look at if you want to be a part of this community or not. Don't make a rush decision when things are not going so well. If you do decide to leave, then I wish you well in all your endeavors and hope things will get better for you. Maybe drop us a line and letting us know you new on-line home? :-D
If you can’t have fun at work, then why go to work?
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I think I would have recognized it when I saw it (and I've seen at least one, but that was about 8 years ago).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I think I would have recognized it when I saw it
I have great faith in my perceptiveness, too. I am always shocked when I discover I am wrong. . .so often :sigh:
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I always pictured you as a brunette, but don't ask me why.
Same here, actually. I refrained from posting that because I doubt it would mend anything, but it's still strange. And now that you broke the ice..
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyI also saw Leckie as a redhead... Again, I don't know why.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Why should she have sympathy given what she has said? Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted. Finally she is doing the decent thing and deleting her own account. :)
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
fat__boy wrote:
Because of people like her I have had two accounts deleted.
My guess is you are going for three.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection,
If that's how little you understand the language, no wonder you hate programming in it.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM
What version of VB are you using / referring too?
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
VB is certainly held in low regard here,
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders. It's not. I wonder what the results would be if everybody on the site were forced to participate in the following poll: How do you feel about VB? 0) Love it 1) Hate it 2) Don't care Notice that the list starts with 0, so most VB programmers won't even recognize it as a viable selection, hence skewing the results because the people that really do love it can't select that option. :) EDIT =========== Oh c'mon 1-voting tools, that was f*ckin' hilarious! Okay, okay... I'll try my best to come up with some C# jokes. If anyone can do it, it's me...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:46 AM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
You talk as if you think it's a Codeproject policy to dis VB coders
No it isn't, and I didn't talk as such either. But it does seem to be the attitude of certain "elite" well-known CP individuals. Hey, I'm not really any better, I make jokes about VB too. So, I'm pointing the finger at myself too, just not the "elite" part... BTW, I didn't one vote you. Here's a 5 to offset it.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
So you can hand out the abuse but cant take it eh? Dont let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. :) --edit-- Sorry to pop your bubble one voters, she has been consistently rude and abusive to me for years so my comment is entirely valid.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
modified on Friday, June 24, 2011 11:11 AM
Account banned.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm leaving, just had enough. There are others who have left without saying but I decided I owe it to the good folks here (Chris, Pete, DD, DaveAuld, Griff and others) to say why. Basically there is an element of blatant elitism that turns into attacks/ridicule on others whether it be blondes or Visual Basic. I have been told to my face I can't do my job because of my hair colour wirth response that I should just live with it or sink to their level. Also Visual Basic, whether it is VBA or VB.NET, has it's place for different users yet some here decide they can ridicule anyone who touches it. These are two examples of an underlying attitude I do not wish to be associated with so goodbye everyone and take care. I have asked Chris to delete my account. Elaine :rose:
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Hi, I really feel sorry for the fact that you have decided to leave CP for the reasons you explained in (hopefully not) your last post and I want to respond to what you say with the fact that most of us are respecting others here on CP regardless of the programming language they use or whatever and don't behave as if they are superior towards the other members. Everyone who has historical knowledge of programming knows that countless people started with programming in BASIC and countless programmers are still programming today in some predecessor of this language so there is nothing wrong with that since it's doing the job! I hope you reconsider your decision based on the fact that you did a great Job as Mentor on CP and your advice and help will be missed by many people.:thumbsup:
With friendly greetings, Eric Goedhart