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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    No; loved it straight away. Happy to embrace change when it appears beneficial straight away: the ribbon always felt like change for change's sake rather than an improvement where none was really needed.

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    Jim Crafton
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    digital man wrote:

    the ribbon always felt like change for change's sake rather than an improvement where none was really needed.

    A-fuckin-men!

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    • Q QuiJohn

      Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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      I find it very good actually. Keep in mind that you can collapse it. There should be a small arrow in the top-right corner.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        wrong forum

        Wrong bally web-site!


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Nish Nishant
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        Rule 34!

        Regards, Nish


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        • L Lost User

          Peter Mulholland wrote:

          What bugs me about windows explorer was that they dropped the icon from the start menu and the quick launch toolbar in XP and screwed with the address bar in vista.

          You missed the funny and erratic treeview in Windows 7 Explorer.

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          Peter Mulholland
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          Really? I'm using 7 at home and haven't noticed that. What bugs me about 7 is that my explorer window "changes" to the network and sharing center or the control panel or what ever else. Just leave my goddamn explorer window the way I like it and open another window for anything else that doesn't have/need/use a tree view of my hard drives/directories on the right hand side!

          Pete

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            The Ribbon was introduced in Office 2007 because nearly all of the requests for new features in Word were for features that were already present. The team decided that they had so many commands, and that they were scattered in so many different places that a new approach would be needed for organising the menu options. They held an internal competition to find new ways of organising menus and the Ribbon was the one that was picked - primarily, I suspect, because it looks like a super toolbar, and users are already familiar with toolbars.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I'm not a fan of toolbars either.

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            • C Chris Losinger

              i despise the ribbon

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              Me too. It should be an option. I'm sticking with Office 2003.

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

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                Dalek Dave
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                Yes, there is non-drying paint.

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                • Q QuiJohn

                  Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  I have switched to notepad++ for most things then just copy to Word to format. It is so painful when all of the menus are context based so you have to have perfect pixel placement to get the correct context menu.

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                  • Q QuiJohn

                    Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                    Marc A Brown
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                    Once I got used to it I liked it.

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                    • Q QuiJohn

                      Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                      I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate. It's like having crappin' Clippy back, only now he's just hiding behind the ribbon exacting his revenge, only pissed off because no one liked him. I would like that I can lock the ribbon when I am doing something instead of it changing because Word or Excel thinks I want to change the font to some pansy pastel color. I used to be able to drag a tool bar and have it float near where I was working.

                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Rule 34!

                        Regards, Nish


                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                          I find it very good actually. Keep in mind that you can collapse it. There should be a small arrow in the top-right corner.

                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          I find it very good actually.

                          I have to say I'm surprised how many here like it. It makes me wonder if I'm missing something and maybe I should give it another shot. Nah, I have a Mac now. (Which is a license for me to be a snooty asshole, right?)

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate.

                            :laugh:

                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]

                            She says she's too classy to read the Lounge these days. :rolleyes:

                            Regards, Nish


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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              Me too. It should be an option. I'm sticking with Office 2003.

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                              S Houghtelin
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                              At least Office 2003 worked. The graphics suck versions after, the graphics prettier and work if you only have 3 or 4 data points. :doh:

                              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                              • S S Houghtelin

                                I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate. It's like having crappin' Clippy back, only now he's just hiding behind the ribbon exacting his revenge, only pissed off because no one liked him. I would like that I can lock the ribbon when I am doing something instead of it changing because Word or Excel thinks I want to change the font to some pansy pastel color. I used to be able to drag a tool bar and have it float near where I was working.

                                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                QuiJohn
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                                S Houghtelin wrote:

                                I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate.

                                You know, I think you hit it on the head there. The categorization often seems completely arbitrary.

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate.

                                  :laugh:

                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]

                                  She says she's too classy to read the Lounge these days. :rolleyes:

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Nagy Vilmos
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  She says she's too classy to read the Lounge

                                  From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    She says she's too classy to read the Lounge

                                    From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                    From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!

                                    Well I was surprised too. So I took some time off to read the threads here. Then it kinda made sense. :-D

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    • P Peter Mulholland

                                      Really? I'm using 7 at home and haven't noticed that. What bugs me about 7 is that my explorer window "changes" to the network and sharing center or the control panel or what ever else. Just leave my goddamn explorer window the way I like it and open another window for anything else that doesn't have/need/use a tree view of my hard drives/directories on the right hand side!

                                      Pete

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Peter Mulholland wrote:

                                      Really? I'm using 7 at home and haven't noticed that.

                                      The default color scheme makes it difficult to know if a folder in the treeview is selected or a folder/file in the listview is selected. So if I delete a file thinking that the listview has the focus, I end up deleting its parent folder. (BTW, that's when I kicked off my bad habit of shift deleting).

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        I'm not a fan of toolbars either.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        I prefer Neural Jack-ins. I mean why dig through menus/ribbons when I can think it!

                                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Me too. It should be an option. I'm sticking with Office 2003.

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          It should be an option

                                          It is.

                                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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