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  • Q QuiJohn

    Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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    S Houghtelin
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    I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate. It's like having crappin' Clippy back, only now he's just hiding behind the ribbon exacting his revenge, only pissed off because no one liked him. I would like that I can lock the ribbon when I am doing something instead of it changing because Word or Excel thinks I want to change the font to some pansy pastel color. I used to be able to drag a tool bar and have it float near where I was working.

    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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    • N Nish Nishant

      Rule 34!

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      • D Dario Solera

        I find it very good actually. Keep in mind that you can collapse it. There should be a small arrow in the top-right corner.

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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        Dario Solera wrote:

        I find it very good actually.

        I have to say I'm surprised how many here like it. It makes me wonder if I'm missing something and maybe I should give it another shot. Nah, I have a Mac now. (Which is a license for me to be a snooty asshole, right?)

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Nish Nishant
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate.

          :laugh:

          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]

          She says she's too classy to read the Lounge these days. :rolleyes:

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Me too. It should be an option. I'm sticking with Office 2003.

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            S Houghtelin
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            At least Office 2003 worked. The graphics suck versions after, the graphics prettier and work if you only have 3 or 4 data points. :doh:

            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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            • S S Houghtelin

              I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate. It's like having crappin' Clippy back, only now he's just hiding behind the ribbon exacting his revenge, only pissed off because no one liked him. I would like that I can lock the ribbon when I am doing something instead of it changing because Word or Excel thinks I want to change the font to some pansy pastel color. I used to be able to drag a tool bar and have it float near where I was working.

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              QuiJohn
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              S Houghtelin wrote:

              I don't mind the ribbon, it's the effin contextual guessing game I hate.

              You know, I think you hit it on the head there. The categorization often seems completely arbitrary.

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate.

                :laugh:

                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]

                She says she's too classy to read the Lounge these days. :rolleyes:

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                She says she's too classy to read the Lounge

                From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  She says she's too classy to read the Lounge

                  From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                  From a woman married to you? Don't believe a word of it!

                  Well I was surprised too. So I took some time off to read the threads here. Then it kinda made sense. :-D

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  • P Peter Mulholland

                    Really? I'm using 7 at home and haven't noticed that. What bugs me about 7 is that my explorer window "changes" to the network and sharing center or the control panel or what ever else. Just leave my goddamn explorer window the way I like it and open another window for anything else that doesn't have/need/use a tree view of my hard drives/directories on the right hand side!

                    Pete

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                    Lost User
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                    Peter Mulholland wrote:

                    Really? I'm using 7 at home and haven't noticed that.

                    The default color scheme makes it difficult to know if a folder in the treeview is selected or a folder/file in the listview is selected. So if I delete a file thinking that the listview has the focus, I end up deleting its parent folder. (BTW, that's when I kicked off my bad habit of shift deleting).

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      I'm not a fan of toolbars either.

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                      Lost User
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                      I prefer Neural Jack-ins. I mean why dig through menus/ribbons when I can think it!

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Me too. It should be an option. I'm sticking with Office 2003.

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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        It should be an option

                        It is.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Yes, there is non-drying paint.

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          non-drying paint

                          Then it's not paint.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          • Q QuiJohn

                            Dario Solera wrote:

                            I find it very good actually.

                            I have to say I'm surprised how many here like it. It makes me wonder if I'm missing something and maybe I should give it another shot. Nah, I have a Mac now. (Which is a license for me to be a snooty asshole, right?)

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                            Dario Solera
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                            I too have a Mac (a MacBook Air), but I mostly dislike OSX. I purchased it for the remarkable hardware and immediately installed Windows 7 via Bootcamp.

                            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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                            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              non-drying paint

                              Then it's not paint.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              What would you call it then? See Here[^]

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                It should be an option

                                It is.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                How so? I don't think you mean I can configure Office 2007+ to use ye olde menues. (And I don't mean some third-party replacement.)

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                                • Q QuiJohn

                                  Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                                  thrakazog
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                                  David Kentley wrote:

                                  Does anyone like the ribbon interface?

                                  The only good thing about it will be if there is an option to hide it.

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                    Peter Mulholland
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                                    I've just wasted too much time looking at rules of the internet. Incidentally when I google rules of the internet[^] The 5th result is NSFW judging by the title and does not appear to have anything to do with rules of the internet (unless you apply 34 I suppose)

                                    Pete

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                      It should be an option

                                      It is.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                      S Houghtelin
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                                      From M$ Excel help regarding the Ribbon, Help Subject: What happened to the File menu? The answer: “The ribbon replaces the menu” then goes on to extol the virtues of the ribbon ending at the bottom where it simply states "Use the Ribbon" Which is a link to how to play ribbon "whack-a-mole".

                                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        I'm not a fan of toolbars either.

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                                        Rage
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                                        Reckon that you don't like anything involving the mouse, you keys pusher.

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                                        • Q QuiJohn

                                          Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                                          Rage
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                                          The ribbon is not the primary problem in this screenshot. Maybe Microsoft could for once try to understand that an explorer needs to have two panes, one source and one target. I'll stick to Total Commander until this is fixed.

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