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  • B BobJanova

    Does VS really give you £700 more value than, say, SharpDevelop? Now they got the integrated debugger working over there I haven't really found anything it's missing out on (perhaps some ASP/web related things, I don't use .Net for my hobby websites).

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    hairy_hats
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    Considering that C# and C++ Express are free, what additional does SharpDevelop give you that makes you want to use it?

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      Considering that C# and C++ Express are free, what additional does SharpDevelop give you that makes you want to use it?

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      BobJanova
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      You mean the VS Express? SharpDevelop loads much faster and uses much less memory, to the extent that on a former computer of mine VS wouldn't run at all. (VS is horrible bloatware that I would prefer to keep out of my personal life.) Also, I thought VS Express had licence restrictions on what you can do with stuff you make in it

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      • D Dalek Dave

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        oooh do you feel all big an intellectually superior now you've corrected someones grammer on an internet forum**.**
         
        Forum speak is caaual converstion, not rigorously applied intellectual standards which with two postgraduate degrees I already proved I am cabable of on numerous occasions.
         
        so I therefore respectfully suggest you crawl back un der your rock and continue to play with yourslef in the dark

        You say that, but the poor spelling, grammatical solecisms, appalling punctuation and syntactic awkwardness makes me wonder about the quality of any university that would award degrees to people who lack the basic ability to communicate.

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        Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        people who lack the basic ability to communicate

        What with all the stuff OP said about VS 2010, he/she does seem to be the average customer we're used to seeing in the Q&A forum. I'm looking forward to expecting to seeing OP there soon. :rolleyes: :-D Cheers!

        "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

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        • G Gizz

          You can get the Microsoft Action Pack Dev and Design for £300 + VAT, gives you 3 licences for MSDN including VS2010, plus 10 licences for Office/Win7 and 2 real licences for Server 2008 and SQL. :)

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          Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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          Gizz wrote:

          Microsoft Action Pack Dev and Design for £300 + VAT ...

          Thanks for that information! 5+ Really good to know. Cheers!

          "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

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          • P pseudonym67

            O.K. then the dissertation is written. Representations of prositution in the eighteenth century is ready to be sent of in January for marking. and I'm officially an expert in eighteenth century literature, well I suppose literature in general as even if I failed the masters I have already past the postgraduate. As usual with these things I think it's alright when I read it but fear that it might be a load of nonesensical rubbish when I happen to think about it. So in order to take my mind off it it's time to get my monies worth out of vs 2010 that I finally took the plunge and paid 700 quids for. It's expensive being a hobbiest these days still orders of magnitude cheaper than doing the Masters degree though. The plan at the moment is to learn wpf and finish version 1 of Personal Music Player which should take about a month or so.

            pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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            BillWoodruff
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            Congratulations on finishing your dissertation ! best, Bill

            "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." Miss Piggy"

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            • D Dalek Dave

              pseudonym67 wrote:

              oooh do you feel all big an intellectually superior now you've corrected someones grammer on an internet forum**.**
               
              Forum speak is caaual converstion, not rigorously applied intellectual standards which with two postgraduate degrees I already proved I am cabable of on numerous occasions.
               
              so I therefore respectfully suggest you crawl back un der your rock and continue to play with yourslef in the dark

              You say that, but the poor spelling, grammatical solecisms, appalling punctuation and syntactic awkwardness makes me wonder about the quality of any university that would award degrees to people who lack the basic ability to communicate.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              pseudonym67
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              oh come on dave I thought you at least would be smart enough to notice it was deliberate

              pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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              • B BobJanova

                Does VS really give you £700 more value than, say, SharpDevelop? Now they got the integrated debugger working over there I haven't really found anything it's missing out on (perhaps some ASP/web related things, I don't use .Net for my hobby websites).

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                In a word no But at the time the sharpdevelop debugger wasn't up to the job and it was getting in the way of my getting things working so it had to go.

                pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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                • P pseudonym67

                  O.K. then the dissertation is written. Representations of prositution in the eighteenth century is ready to be sent of in January for marking. and I'm officially an expert in eighteenth century literature, well I suppose literature in general as even if I failed the masters I have already past the postgraduate. As usual with these things I think it's alright when I read it but fear that it might be a load of nonesensical rubbish when I happen to think about it. So in order to take my mind off it it's time to get my monies worth out of vs 2010 that I finally took the plunge and paid 700 quids for. It's expensive being a hobbiest these days still orders of magnitude cheaper than doing the Masters degree though. The plan at the moment is to learn wpf and finish version 1 of Personal Music Player which should take about a month or so.

                  pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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                  pseudonym67 wrote:

                  O.K. then the dissertation is written. Representations of prositution in the eighteenth century

                  Well, so far as can be gleaned from the message, you're primary an expertise is in "18th Century Prostitution." Not trying to sound like a crab or anything, but at this point, dry skin, bony fingers, and coffins notwithstanding, those women are a tad too old for you. Of course, tastes do vary.

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                  • P pseudonym67

                    O.K. then the dissertation is written. Representations of prositution in the eighteenth century is ready to be sent of in January for marking. and I'm officially an expert in eighteenth century literature, well I suppose literature in general as even if I failed the masters I have already past the postgraduate. As usual with these things I think it's alright when I read it but fear that it might be a load of nonesensical rubbish when I happen to think about it. So in order to take my mind off it it's time to get my monies worth out of vs 2010 that I finally took the plunge and paid 700 quids for. It's expensive being a hobbiest these days still orders of magnitude cheaper than doing the Masters degree though. The plan at the moment is to learn wpf and finish version 1 of Personal Music Player which should take about a month or so.

                    pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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                    pseudonym67 wrote:

                    It's expensive being a hobbiest these days

                    I've been complaining about that for YEARS. The first version of Turbo Pascal I bought was just $29.95 in 1983. Compare that to $1000 for VS2010 today...

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    • P pseudonym67

                      oh come on dave I thought you at least would be smart enough to notice it was deliberate

                      pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Sorry mate, Monday head on. I wasn't looking too deeply.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        pseudonym67 wrote:

                        It's expensive being a hobbiest these days

                        I've been complaining about that for YEARS. The first version of Turbo Pascal I bought was just $29.95 in 1983. Compare that to $1000 for VS2010 today...

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        Factor in the 28 years of inflation and it is probably not as different as you think.

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                        • B BobJanova

                          Factor in the 28 years of inflation and it is probably not as different as you think.

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          The value of money went down 33x in 28 years? So that million I am planning on retiring with will essentially be worth less than $30K? :((

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            pseudonym67 wrote:

                            It's expensive being a hobbiest these days

                            I've been complaining about that for YEARS. The first version of Turbo Pascal I bought was just $29.95 in 1983. Compare that to $1000 for VS2010 today...

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            Roger Wright
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                            And unlike VS2010, Turbo Pascal did exactly what you expected it to, every time, with a minimum of resources. As a bonus, it came with books, too!

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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