Why VB is popular in America!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
floors are 1-indexed
I don't see what that has to do with BASIC. You also seem to be saying that C is an unamerican invention -- I think you just killed dmr. :mad:
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I don't see what that has to do with BASIC.
It's a CodeProject meme from a few years ago where some of us (mostly John, CG and myself) would joke about C/C++ guys 0-indexing in real life vs VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing. :)
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A ta d over simplistic I would venture to say. :)
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digital man wrote:
A ta d over simplistic I would venture to say.
It's all this C# I did the other day. Zapped my brains :-)
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Yes but when anyone says first floor here we always mean the ground floor. This confuses Brits and Aussies, and some Indians as well.
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I would think that is only the case in those building. Like in my sisters apartment building she lives on floor 3. You go to the elevator and press 3 or walk up the stairs till you see 3. If someone told you level 4, well they are... How to a put this delicately. "An idiot". I have stayed in hotels that have Lobby as the main. In fact there are no rooms on the main floor (conference rooms etc, but no sleeping rooms). These in particular define the "1st" floor as that above the lobby. If the conceirge tells you, "Your room is on floor 3" and you press three but really he meant 2 (cause he thinks of the lobby as 1), he should be fired or atleast given a good lashing. However, with that said there are plenty of hotels (in particual motels are this way) that have the "1st" floor defined as the ground level. Just have to be observant I think. I do see how getting a "1st" floor room might end up confusing in the states. Because in some cases it is ground and some not. So one thinks its ground and goes looking for the room and then realizes they are on the "G" level or "L" level. But any other level you need to use stairs or an elevator regardless so you quickly realize where you are and where you need to be.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
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I would think that is only the case in those building. Like in my sisters apartment building she lives on floor 3. You go to the elevator and press 3 or walk up the stairs till you see 3. If someone told you level 4, well they are... How to a put this delicately. "An idiot". I have stayed in hotels that have Lobby as the main. In fact there are no rooms on the main floor (conference rooms etc, but no sleeping rooms). These in particular define the "1st" floor as that above the lobby. If the conceirge tells you, "Your room is on floor 3" and you press three but really he meant 2 (cause he thinks of the lobby as 1), he should be fired or atleast given a good lashing. However, with that said there are plenty of hotels (in particual motels are this way) that have the "1st" floor defined as the ground level. Just have to be observant I think. I do see how getting a "1st" floor room might end up confusing in the states. Because in some cases it is ground and some not. So one thinks its ground and goes looking for the room and then realizes they are on the "G" level or "L" level. But any other level you need to use stairs or an elevator regardless so you quickly realize where you are and where you need to be.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Yeah, I know what you are saying here. My OP was primarily meant as humor :-) I still do confuse my mom when I tell her during a phone call that Smitha's (my wife) in the 2nd floor. To my mom that indicates I live in a 3-storey home (which I don't). Nowadays I just say upstairs (in my native language, not in english).
Regards, Nish
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
So is there a concept of story (number of floors) in the UK? Such as a three-story building (3 floors). How often does floor overrun happen in the UK?
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harold aptroot wrote:
VB doesn't skip 13 though
Are you saying VB pre-dates Christianity? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
My building is built on a hill, so the groud floor is different depending what door you use to enter. Therefore the floor are not numbered, but lettered, from A to I.
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So is there a concept of story (number of floors) in the UK? Such as a three-story building (3 floors). How often does floor overrun happen in the UK?
Paul Watt wrote:
So is there a concept of story (number of floors) in the UK?
Such as a three-story building (3 floors).They spell it as storey I think. Yeah, someone like Dalek would say he lives in a 2-story home but the top-floor would still be the first floor. :-D
Regards, Nish
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My building is built on a hill, so the groud floor is different depending what door you use to enter. Therefore the floor are not numbered, but lettered, from A to I.
kevinnicol wrote:
My building is built on a hill, so the groud floor is different depending what door you use to enter. Therefore the floor are not numbered, but lettered, from A to I.
Must be nice there! :-)
Regards, Nish
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harold aptroot wrote:
VB doesn't skip 13 though
Are you saying VB pre-dates Christianity? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1
so, it's not counting floors, it's counting "floors below".
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harold aptroot wrote:
Doesn't it?
Well that'd make it a semitic language then. :-D
Regards, Nish
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harold aptroot wrote:
Doesn't it?
Well that'd make it a semitic language then. :-D
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
So what do they do with buildings built on the side of a hill? Here there's a ground floor entrance on the basement, the first floor and the second floor (US). The main office is at the second floor ground entrance.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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So what do they do with buildings built on the side of a hill? Here there's a ground floor entrance on the basement, the first floor and the second floor (US). The main office is at the second floor ground entrance.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
It probably depends on what side of the building you are on...
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I don't see what that has to do with BASIC.
It's a CodeProject meme from a few years ago where some of us (mostly John, CG and myself) would joke about C/C++ guys 0-indexing in real life vs VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing. :)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing
The guys might, but the language doesn't. One could just as easily use 1-based indexing in C/C++.
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I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Waytogo Nish. Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!
Best wishes, Hans
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing
The guys might, but the language doesn't. One could just as easily use 1-based indexing in C/C++.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
The guys might, but the language doesn't.
The language culture encourages it.
Dim a as int(10) means a 11-item array indexed from 0 to 10.int a[10]means a 10-item array indexed from 0 to 9. Can't change that. People can always work around this (but that's not the point here).Regards, Nish
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Waytogo Nish. Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!
Best wishes, Hans
Hans Dietrich wrote:
Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!
:laugh: That's funny but when you add the fact that it's a Hans-quote, you try and look at its inner meaning and then you have that ahhh-moment! 5!
Regards, Nish
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