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  • K kevinnicol

    My building is built on a hill, so the groud floor is different depending what door you use to enter. Therefore the floor are not numbered, but lettered, from A to I.

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    Nish Nishant
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    kevinnicol wrote:

    My building is built on a hill, so the groud floor is different depending what door you use to enter. Therefore the floor are not numbered, but lettered, from A to I.

    Must be nice there! :-)

    Regards, Nish


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      harold aptroot wrote:

      VB doesn't skip 13 though

      Are you saying VB pre-dates Christianity? :rolleyes:

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      Lost User
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      Doesn't it?

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        I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.

        Regards, Nish


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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1

        so, it's not counting floors, it's counting "floors below".

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          Doesn't it?

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          harold aptroot wrote:

          Doesn't it?

          Well that'd make it a semitic language then. :-D

          Regards, Nish


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            harold aptroot wrote:

            Doesn't it?

            Well that'd make it a semitic language then. :-D

            Regards, Nish


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            Lost User
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            That might explain why it is so weird

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            • N Nish Nishant

              I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.

              Regards, Nish


              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              Dr Walt Fair PE
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              So what do they do with buildings built on the side of a hill? Here there's a ground floor entrance on the basement, the first floor and the second floor (US). The main office is at the second floor ground entrance.

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                So what do they do with buildings built on the side of a hill? Here there's a ground floor entrance on the basement, the first floor and the second floor (US). The main office is at the second floor ground entrance.

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                Paul M Watt
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                It probably depends on what side of the building you are on...

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  I don't see what that has to do with BASIC.

                  It's a CodeProject meme from a few years ago where some of us (mostly John, CG and myself) would joke about C/C++ guys 0-indexing in real life vs VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing. :)

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing

                  The guys might, but the language doesn't. One could just as easily use 1-based indexing in C/C++.

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                    I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.

                    Regards, Nish


                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    Hans Dietrich
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                    Waytogo Nish. Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!

                    Best wishes, Hans


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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing

                      The guys might, but the language doesn't. One could just as easily use 1-based indexing in C/C++.

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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      The guys might, but the language doesn't.

                      The language culture encourages it. Dim a as int(10) means a 11-item array indexed from 0 to 10. int a[10] means a 10-item array indexed from 0 to 9. Can't change that. People can always work around this (but that's not the point here).

                      Regards, Nish


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                      • H Hans Dietrich

                        Waytogo Nish. Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!

                        Best wishes, Hans


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                        Hans Dietrich wrote:

                        Expect ten more people to close their accounts here because you've disrespected VB!

                        :laugh: That's funny but when you add the fact that it's a Hans-quote, you try and look at its inner meaning and then you have that ahhh-moment! 5!

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • L Lost User

                          Depends on the building. I think most buildings define a ground level (the entry) or a Lobby and use a letter for the definition on the elevator. My sisters apartment Building has it as such B (Basement) G (Ground) 1 (First Floor) 2 etc etc [EDIT] I use my sisters apartment as an example cause my place of living is even more complicated (yet simple). It is a split entry house. So I have upstairs and downstairs :-D

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                          It is a split entry house. So I have upstairs and downstairs

                          Same here. It's a multi-level (5 actual levels if you include the basement) :-)

                          Regards, Nish


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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.

                            Regards, Nish


                            My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            Matt Meyer
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                            Well, much like VB itself, our elevators are not designed for programmers... :-D

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                              I realized this as I was explaining the 1s floor vs 2nd floor differences[^] between UK and American english. In the UK (and India, Australia) floors are 0-indexed. The ground floor is 0, the first floor above ground is 1, and so on. The basement is usually -1. In the US (and I believe Canada too), floors are 1-indexed. The ground floor is 1, the next floor is 2 and so on. I don't think negative numbering is used for sub-ground levels. May explain why a lot of the C/C++ aficionados are European. While VB and BASIC are essentially American inventions.

                              Regards, Nish


                              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              if you are on the ground floor, isn't that floor 1? and the floor above you would be floor 2? most hospitals have the base floor as floor 1 and the G is the garage. My reasoning is that how can you be on floor 0? it makes no sense...to me at least. Then again, I'm just a silly American who started off programming with VB. :-D

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                The guys might, but the language doesn't.

                                The language culture encourages it. Dim a as int(10) means a 11-item array indexed from 0 to 10. int a[10] means a 10-item array indexed from 0 to 9. Can't change that. People can always work around this (but that's not the point here).

                                Regards, Nish


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                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                The language culture encourages it. Dim

                                When I started programming, I learned with VB but always took notice of the "Dim" statement. It always reminded me of "dim witted". :)

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  VB guys who'd use 1-based indexing

                                  The guys might, but the language doesn't. One could just as easily use 1-based indexing in C/C++.

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                                  But then you smell of FORTRAN and have to publish a book about numerical methods. :rolleyes:

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                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    VB doesn't skip 13 though

                                    Are you saying VB pre-dates Christianity? :rolleyes:

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    Romans didn't know 0 as well multithreading, I believe.

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                                      if you are on the ground floor, isn't that floor 1? and the floor above you would be floor 2? most hospitals have the base floor as floor 1 and the G is the garage. My reasoning is that how can you be on floor 0? it makes no sense...to me at least. Then again, I'm just a silly American who started off programming with VB. :-D

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      if you are on the ground floor, isn't that floor 1? and the floor above you would be floor 2?

                                      In the US, yes. In the UK, India, Australia that'd be floor-0 and the floor above is floor-1.

                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      Then again, I'm just a silly American who started off programming with VB.

                                      And here I am, an Indian origin dude living in America (also started with Basic, GWBASIC though not VB) wondering how you can substract 3 from 2. What is all this negative integer stuff anyway? I don't get it. :-D

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        Romans didn't know 0 as well multithreading, I believe.

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        CPallini wrote:

                                        Romans didn't know 0 as well multithreading, I believe.

                                        :laugh:

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        • B Bert Mitton

                                          That's easy. The rest of the world likes C languages, so we have to like VB just to be obstinate. :laugh:

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                                          Bert Mitton wrote:

                                          just to be obstinate.

                                          You typical American. :-)

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