XBOX's Live Gold requirement to run apps!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Anyone else think this is a rotten idea? You cannot run Youtube/Netflix or any other app on an XBOX unless you maintain a Live Gold subscription. Remember than these apps are free and run on numerous other devices including PS3, most recent Samsung and Sony TVs and DVD players, phones and tablets etc.
I've wondered about this aspect of their strategy for a while. They want to be the center of entertainment for the house, from TV to movies to music to, oh yeah, video games. I don't mind paying for Xbox live, it is a great service for doing online play (I know you can do it without paying on other platforms, but XBL really is a smooth experience). I think they're making a HUGE mistake by requiring it for all the other crap though, that's free on just about every other box you can connect to your TV.
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
The marketing is also rather misleading. Until I hooked it up, I did not know that all the advertised apps (netflix and youtube are promoted on most xbox ads) need xbox gold.
Regards, Nish
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The marketing is also rather misleading. Until I hooked it up, I did not know that all the advertised apps (netflix and youtube are promoted on most xbox ads) need xbox gold.
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
The marketing is also rather misleading.
When Microsoft hires a competent marketing firm, they may make something of themselves. Has such a successful company ever had worse marketing?
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
The marketing is also rather misleading.
When Microsoft hires a competent marketing firm, they may make something of themselves. Has such a successful company ever had worse marketing?
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
Well I am rather pro-Microsoft for most things, yet this pissed me off when I first found out. I can imagine that neutral folks would be really upset to find out this limitation after they've made the purchase.
Regards, Nish
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BTW the 2-vote was not mine.
Regards, Nish
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I dont sweat votes.. :-D as per your other reply, no its not a requirement for most games, but that is still its intended purpose when its all said and done though. as you said in another post, 5 bucks a month is not bad anyway. Also(and this one I could see being a little gotcha) you need to be a live member to get software updates to the thing as well. and there are game updates and patches you can only get as a live member. these can even apply to the games that you only play offline. And most of the games for the Kinect(such as dancing games) have extra content you can buy for them, yep you need a membership there too...
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
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I dont sweat votes.. :-D as per your other reply, no its not a requirement for most games, but that is still its intended purpose when its all said and done though. as you said in another post, 5 bucks a month is not bad anyway. Also(and this one I could see being a little gotcha) you need to be a live member to get software updates to the thing as well. and there are game updates and patches you can only get as a live member. these can even apply to the games that you only play offline. And most of the games for the Kinect(such as dancing games) have extra content you can buy for them, yep you need a membership there too...
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
They need to make this info available though and not wait for people to find out after buying an Xbox. :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
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Anyone else think this is a rotten idea? You cannot run Youtube/Netflix or any other app on an XBOX unless you maintain a Live Gold subscription. Remember than these apps are free and run on numerous other devices including PS3, most recent Samsung and Sony TVs and DVD players, phones and tablets etc. :thumbsdown:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
I especially like how they inform you that you need a Gold subscription after you've downloaded the app. Maybe I missed something, but it would have been nice to have been told that before downloading the app onto the HD since it's useless to me without the subscription.
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I especially like how they inform you that you need a Gold subscription after you've downloaded the app. Maybe I missed something, but it would have been nice to have been told that before downloading the app onto the HD since it's useless to me without the subscription.
Leslie Sanford wrote:
I especially like how they inform you that you need a Gold subscription after you've downloaded the app.
Yeah, which genius thought of that?
Regards, Nish
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Well I am rather pro-Microsoft for most things, yet this pissed me off when I first found out. I can imagine that neutral folks would be really upset to find out this limitation after they've made the purchase.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Well I am rather pro-Microsoft for most things, yet this pissed me off when I first found out.
It should too. I was a relatively late adapter to the 360, and even THAT was almost 4 years ago now, but it was still mostly for games back then, and I was a member of XBL since the original Xbox. MS has to realize expectations have changed. They need to position XBL as something you "need" in order to have a good gaming experience, and oh look at all this great stuff XBL enables. To imply all the normal internet stuff is free is horrible. Although, their new Netflix app IS horrible (TV shows start playing season 1, episode 1 while you're still looking for the episode you actually want to watch), so if you have any other way of watching Netflix on your TV, do that instead. Their old app was simpler and easier to use. Using Netflix via Kinect feels like you're on a hidden camera show as you flail about. (The other Kinect integration is nice though.) I use the Apple TV (it's only $99! so shoot me!) and it has such a nice interface for Netflix. especially if you have an iOS device Although I had to put my cable box in between them so the Xbox wouldn't become sentient and eat the Apple TV while we sleep.
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
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Yeah and $5/month is not bad.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
I have the family pack so that my kids can play online, and my wife can watch Hulu/Netflix without the constant pop-up of my friends getting online. $100 for 4 gold accounts isn't bad at all!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Well I am rather pro-Microsoft for most things, yet this pissed me off when I first found out.
It should too. I was a relatively late adapter to the 360, and even THAT was almost 4 years ago now, but it was still mostly for games back then, and I was a member of XBL since the original Xbox. MS has to realize expectations have changed. They need to position XBL as something you "need" in order to have a good gaming experience, and oh look at all this great stuff XBL enables. To imply all the normal internet stuff is free is horrible. Although, their new Netflix app IS horrible (TV shows start playing season 1, episode 1 while you're still looking for the episode you actually want to watch), so if you have any other way of watching Netflix on your TV, do that instead. Their old app was simpler and easier to use. Using Netflix via Kinect feels like you're on a hidden camera show as you flail about. (The other Kinect integration is nice though.) I use the Apple TV (it's only $99! so shoot me!) and it has such a nice interface for Netflix. especially if you have an iOS device Although I had to put my cable box in between them so the Xbox wouldn't become sentient and eat the Apple TV while we sleep.
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
Agree so much on the new Netflix app. Browsing TV episodes was so much easier with the old one. :(
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Well I am rather pro-Microsoft for most things, yet this pissed me off when I first found out.
It should too. I was a relatively late adapter to the 360, and even THAT was almost 4 years ago now, but it was still mostly for games back then, and I was a member of XBL since the original Xbox. MS has to realize expectations have changed. They need to position XBL as something you "need" in order to have a good gaming experience, and oh look at all this great stuff XBL enables. To imply all the normal internet stuff is free is horrible. Although, their new Netflix app IS horrible (TV shows start playing season 1, episode 1 while you're still looking for the episode you actually want to watch), so if you have any other way of watching Netflix on your TV, do that instead. Their old app was simpler and easier to use. Using Netflix via Kinect feels like you're on a hidden camera show as you flail about. (The other Kinect integration is nice though.) I use the Apple TV (it's only $99! so shoot me!) and it has such a nice interface for Netflix. especially if you have an iOS device Although I had to put my cable box in between them so the Xbox wouldn't become sentient and eat the Apple TV while we sleep.
Look at me still talking when there's science to do When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
My TV has a Netflix app but it does not support CC which is handy when watching British TV shows. Kinda funny that I am Indian, and thus supposed to be more familiar with british accents and yet I struggle with it (specially movies/shows that use older accents). I believe the Xbox Netflix app does support CC.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
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I have the family pack so that my kids can play online, and my wife can watch Hulu/Netflix without the constant pop-up of my friends getting online. $100 for 4 gold accounts isn't bad at all!
$100 annual, right?
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
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you are looking at it all wrong see... the xbox is first and foremost a gaming console. you get the live gold to play online games which is a lot more fun that just local solo stuff.. then they offer the other stuff as a bonus . netflix youtube etcc..They are still exploring and playig with how far they can go with the extra stuff without losing track of the original purpose.. a gaming console.(that being said I wish they would add a damn web browser) so if you bought the xbox and the live gold for its intended purpose its not a problem,you can do other stuff too. if you got it JUST for the apps, you missed the mark, a dedicated pc(hooked to the tv) is better for it probably and would have far greater flexibility(things such as other streaming sites).
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
gavindon wrote:
you are looking at it all wrong see...
"You're holding it wrong!" While the 360 was designed to play games, the moment they decided to add media capabilities it ceased to be a gaming console and became a media center with the ability to play games. You can stream movies, pictures, and music from your PC, use it for netflix, Hulu, and so on. You can also play some games multiplayer without a gold account (at least you used to be able to, not sure of any changes within the past year). When they decided to raise their prices that was the end for me, I pay for my internet access, I pay for netflix, it drove me nuts that they wanted me to pay even more for the ability to use them while the other big two (Sony and Nintendo) didn't. Live should have stayed attached to the games and 'extras' much like Sony's Plus membership works. And yes, I paid for two years of Gold before I gave it up. Just to much for to little.
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$100 annual, right?
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
I was curious too. I did a quick search and it is indeed an annual amount. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/JoinLive/FamilyPackFAQ[^]
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I was curious too. I did a quick search and it is indeed an annual amount. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/JoinLive/FamilyPackFAQ[^]
Thanks.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
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They need to make this info available though and not wait for people to find out after buying an Xbox. :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
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I dont sweat votes.. :-D as per your other reply, no its not a requirement for most games, but that is still its intended purpose when its all said and done though. as you said in another post, 5 bucks a month is not bad anyway. Also(and this one I could see being a little gotcha) you need to be a live member to get software updates to the thing as well. and there are game updates and patches you can only get as a live member. these can even apply to the games that you only play offline. And most of the games for the Kinect(such as dancing games) have extra content you can buy for them, yep you need a membership there too...
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
Just to clarify, you only need a silver (free) Xbox Live account to purchase downloadable content and receive updates.
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Just to clarify, you only need a silver (free) Xbox Live account to purchase downloadable content and receive updates.
my bad then, I thought it had to have the gold to do that.
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
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Anyone else think this is a rotten idea? You cannot run Youtube/Netflix or any other app on an XBOX unless you maintain a Live Gold subscription. Remember than these apps are free and run on numerous other devices including PS3, most recent Samsung and Sony TVs and DVD players, phones and tablets etc. :thumbsdown:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
Hey, Nish. I think you mentioned a while back that you had or were thinking about getting Netflix. What is the status on that? My wife and I currently have streaming Netflix and the movie selection is hit and miss for us. Is there anything better out there right now as far as streaming movies?
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Hey, Nish. I think you mentioned a while back that you had or were thinking about getting Netflix. What is the status on that? My wife and I currently have streaming Netflix and the movie selection is hit and miss for us. Is there anything better out there right now as far as streaming movies?
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"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
Hey, Nish. I think you mentioned a while back that you had or were thinking about getting Netflix. What is the status on that?
I had the Netflix DVD + streaming plan for a while. I recently cancelled the streaming and am now on the DVD-only plan. The movies I actually wanted to see are DVD-only, and except for 3 or maybe 4 movies everything else I watched on streaming was because there was nothing better to watch/do. I'd say you guys should try out the DVD plan, it's not as flexible as streaming, but until they seriously improve their streaming movie collection it doesn't make much sense to keep it.
Regards, Nish
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