Aaaarg....use the namespace

[PIEBALDconsult]

Sentenryu wrote:

I always import

But that's not what the using directive does. There is no "import" in C# -- the closest to that is references.

[Sentenryu]

I don't see the shame on this, this guy just like to write long names :|

I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

[Sentenryu]

my teachers always said import here in Brazil, I ended up picking up the habit...

I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

[Sentenryu]

You specified it when you wrote System.Text.StringBuilder ...

I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

[PIEBALDconsult]

Ah, so perhaps you were agreeing with me. I see now that my statement was unclear and I have added clarification.

[Sentenryu]

Yes yes, I really have bad time expressing this things on languages other than my own... (actually, even in my own language sometimes I've bad times trying to express my self... :( )

I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

[Lost User]

PIEBALDconsult wrote:

I tried that, briefly.

..a good idea, if you are paid per line written. It should feel comparably to explicitly stating that a member is "private", and prefixing everything possible with "this".

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

[Lost User]

Sentenryu wrote:

But it's a matter of taste.

No, it's not. Bloating code is an offence. Three offences, you're out.

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

[PIEBALDconsult]

Eddy Vluggen wrote:

explicitly stating that a member is "private",

Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.

Eddy Vluggen wrote:

prefixing everything possible with "this".

Which I also do. Just because. :cool:

[Lost User]

PIEBALDconsult wrote:

Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.

Why?

PIEBALDconsult wrote:

Which I also do. Just because. :cool:

The amount of symbols that you use to convey an idea would best be kept to a minimum.

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

[Nagy Vilmos]

No, you prefix the member if a class with this to prevent any ambiguity. The method or property on it's own only implies where it is. If I have this code:

class Thingy {
private int majig = 27;

void summit() {
    if (majig > 42) {
      // clever code
    }
}

}

And I copy the test to another method, all bad things could happen:

void nuThang() {
    // lots of code
    int majig = 69;

    // lots more code
    // copied:
    if (majig > 42) {
      // clever code
    }
}

oops.

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[Lost User]

Copy/paste is often an invitation not to check what you just pasted. Your example might be a nice example on why we introduced the DRY principle, but being this abstract, one can't be sure. But no, I'd not be bloating my code for the sake of "easy copies". If it's that re-usable, I'll take the time to make it a snippet. --edit;

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

No, you prefix the member if a class with this to prevent any ambiguity

..the same kind of ambiguity that you have if you don't use the full name against a type, including it's namespace. Do you have global variables that clash with the names of the property/method that you're calling from the current object that you need to specify explicitly that you need the property/method from "this" object?

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[PIEBALDconsult]

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

you prefix the member if a class with this to prevent any ambiguity

Correct.

[thatraja]

Sentenryu wrote:

I don't see the shame on this, this guy just like to write long names :|

:doh: Huh? I don't, read my message again. I don't want the repetitions so I just mentioned the namespace at the top & replaced things.

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[thatraja]

There I mentioned StringBuilder is just an example. I found many similar things like below.

System.Diagnostics.Trace.Write
System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine
System.Drawing.Color
System.Configuration.Configuration
System.IO.StreamWriter
System.IO.StreamReader
System.IO.FileInfo
System.IO.FileStream
System.IO.StringReader
System.IO.StringWriter
System.IO.TextReader
System.IO.TextWriter
System.Xml.XmlDocument
etc.,
....
...
..
.

Why so much repetitions? After that some more 100s of replacements done. Namespace at top.

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[Sentenryu]

I was talking about the original programmer, is that you?

I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

[BillW33]

But, some folk like to bloat their code. ;) ;) I agree, there is no good reason to do this, but it is not as bad as wacky, buggy code.

Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

[Lost User]

CIDev wrote:

I agree, there is no good reason to do this, but it is not as bad as wacky, buggy code.

To quote one of the arguments why it is;

CIDev wrote:

Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

And that's easy to explain; the more symbols you need to convey an idea, the more chances that there's an error in the communication. The more symbols, the more fluff, the more bugs.

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[Sander Rossel]

Not that it's a good excuse, but it makes copy/pasting the code easier :) If you'd import the System.Text Namespace and copy/pasted the entire thing to another file you'd get an error for every StringBuilder. StringBuilder is a common class that should be known to all programmers, but for some of the more 'obscure' classes I prefer to use the entire namespace. Something like: SomeCompany.ThirdPartyTool.Library.PartINeed.SubPart.TheActualClass. At least now everyone who reads the code knows where this TheActualClass comes from, even if they didn't know the third party component. What I find even more annoying than having System.Text.StringBuilder 100+ times in your code is having lots of imports/using statements at the top of every code file. Especially when half of them aren't used. In C# you can right-click and remove unused imports. VB (unfortunately) doesn't have this option (and please save me the C# vs. VB discussion). I wouldn't call this a code horror, but in this case an import of System.Text does seem logical. The real horror might be that you use 100+ StringBuilders instead of re-use one... But I'll leave that to you :)

It's an OO world.

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[thatraja]

Sentenryu wrote:

I was talking about the original programmer, is that you?

No

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