Aaaarg....use the namespace
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Ah, so perhaps you were agreeing with me. I see now that my statement was unclear and I have added clarification.
Yes yes, I really have bad time expressing this things on languages other than my own... (actually, even in my own language sometimes I've bad times trying to express my self... :( )
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
prefixing everything with "global::".
I tried that, briefly.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I tried that, briefly.
..a good idea, if you are paid per line written. It should feel comparably to explicitly stating that a member is "private", and prefixing everything possible with "this".
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Personally, I always import, unless there is already something with the same name imported. But it's a matter of taste.
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I tried that, briefly.
..a good idea, if you are paid per line written. It should feel comparably to explicitly stating that a member is "private", and prefixing everything possible with "this".
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
explicitly stating that a member is "private",
Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
prefixing everything possible with "this".
Which I also do. Just because. :cool:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
explicitly stating that a member is "private",
Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
prefixing everything possible with "this".
Which I also do. Just because. :cool:
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.
Why?
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Which I also do. Just because. :cool:
The amount of symbols that you use to convey an idea would best be kept to a minimum.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Which everyone should do. There should be no default access modifiers.
Why?
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Which I also do. Just because. :cool:
The amount of symbols that you use to convey an idea would best be kept to a minimum.
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No, you prefix the member if a class with
thisto prevent any ambiguity. The method or property on it's own only implies where it is. If I have this code:class Thingy {
private int majig = 27;void summit() { if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }}
And I copy the test to another method, all bad things could happen:
void nuThang() { // lots of code int majig = 69; // lots more code // copied: if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }oops.
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No, you prefix the member if a class with
thisto prevent any ambiguity. The method or property on it's own only implies where it is. If I have this code:class Thingy {
private int majig = 27;void summit() { if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }}
And I copy the test to another method, all bad things could happen:
void nuThang() { // lots of code int majig = 69; // lots more code // copied: if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }oops.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Copy/paste is often an invitation not to check what you just pasted. Your example might be a nice example on why we introduced the DRY principle, but being this abstract, one can't be sure. But no, I'd not be bloating my code for the sake of "easy copies". If it's that re-usable, I'll take the time to make it a snippet. --edit;
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
No, you prefix the member if a class with
thisto prevent any ambiguity..the same kind of ambiguity that you have if you don't use the full name against a type, including it's namespace. Do you have global variables that clash with the names of the property/method that you're calling from the current object that you need to specify explicitly that you need the property/method from "this" object?
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No, you prefix the member if a class with
thisto prevent any ambiguity. The method or property on it's own only implies where it is. If I have this code:class Thingy {
private int majig = 27;void summit() { if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }}
And I copy the test to another method, all bad things could happen:
void nuThang() { // lots of code int majig = 69; // lots more code // copied: if (majig > 42) { // clever code } }oops.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
you prefix the member if a class with
thisto prevent any ambiguityCorrect.
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I don't see the shame on this, this guy just like to write long names :|
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
Sentenryu wrote:
I don't see the shame on this, this guy just like to write long names :|
:doh: Huh? I don't, read my message again. I don't want the repetitions so I just mentioned the namespace at the top & replaced things.
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I disagree, it's just code, the compiler doesn't care* and it's better to give the next developer too much information rather than too little. But could they have all shared one static instance? How often are these methods called? Are there threading issues? How big do the StringBuilders become? Can you estimate how big? If large, then pre-allocating enough memory or re-using existing instances can eliminate a lot of needless re-allocation. * However, I suspect that when you use the using directive** the compiler must have to spend some additional time looking them up. ** Qualification added for clarification.
There I mentioned
StringBuilderis just an example. I found many similar things like below.System.Diagnostics.Trace.Write
System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine
System.Drawing.Color
System.Configuration.Configuration
System.IO.StreamWriter
System.IO.StreamReader
System.IO.FileInfo
System.IO.FileStream
System.IO.StringReader
System.IO.StringWriter
System.IO.TextReader
System.IO.TextWriter
System.Xml.XmlDocument
etc.,
....
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..
.Why so much repetitions? After that some more 100s of replacements done. Namespace at top.
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Sentenryu wrote:
I don't see the shame on this, this guy just like to write long names :|
:doh: Huh? I don't, read my message again. I don't want the repetitions so I just mentioned the namespace at the top & replaced things.
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Sentenryu wrote:
But it's a matter of taste.
No, it's not. Bloating code is an offence. Three offences, you're out.
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But, some folk like to bloat their code. ;) ;) I agree, there is no good reason to do this, but it is not as bad as wacky, buggy code.
Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.
CIDev wrote:
I agree, there is no good reason to do this, but it is not as bad as wacky, buggy code.
To quote one of the arguments why it is;
CIDev wrote:
Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.
And that's easy to explain; the more symbols you need to convey an idea, the more chances that there's an error in the communication. The more symbols, the more fluff, the more bugs.
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I found 100+
StringBuilders in a module(see below).function string function1()
{
System.Text.StringBuilder sb1 = new System.Text.StringBuilder();
....
...
}
function void method1()
{
System.Text.StringBuilder sb2 = new System.Text.StringBuilder();
....
...
}
function string function3()
{
System.Text.StringBuilder sb3 = new System.Text.StringBuilder();
....
...
}
....
...X| Then I have Included the namespace at top of the module.
using System.Text;
And replaced
System.Text.StringBuilderwithStringBuilderthatraja
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Not that it's a good excuse, but it makes copy/pasting the code easier :) If you'd import the
System.Text Namespaceand copy/pasted the entire thing to another file you'd get an error for everyStringBuilder.StringBuilderis a common class that should be known to all programmers, but for some of the more 'obscure' classes I prefer to use the entire namespace. Something like:SomeCompany.ThirdPartyTool.Library.PartINeed.SubPart.TheActualClass. At least now everyone who reads the code knows where thisTheActualClasscomes from, even if they didn't know the third party component. What I find even more annoying than havingSystem.Text.StringBuilder100+ times in your code is having lots of imports/using statements at the top of every code file. Especially when half of them aren't used. In C# you can right-click and remove unused imports. VB (unfortunately) doesn't have this option (and please save me the C# vs. VB discussion). I wouldn't call this a code horror, but in this case an import ofSystem.Textdoes seem logical. The real horror might be that you use 100+StringBuildersinstead of re-use one... But I'll leave that to you :)It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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I was talking about the original programmer, is that you?
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
Sentenryu wrote:
I was talking about the original programmer, is that you?
No
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Not that it's a good excuse, but it makes copy/pasting the code easier :) If you'd import the
System.Text Namespaceand copy/pasted the entire thing to another file you'd get an error for everyStringBuilder.StringBuilderis a common class that should be known to all programmers, but for some of the more 'obscure' classes I prefer to use the entire namespace. Something like:SomeCompany.ThirdPartyTool.Library.PartINeed.SubPart.TheActualClass. At least now everyone who reads the code knows where thisTheActualClasscomes from, even if they didn't know the third party component. What I find even more annoying than havingSystem.Text.StringBuilder100+ times in your code is having lots of imports/using statements at the top of every code file. Especially when half of them aren't used. In C# you can right-click and remove unused imports. VB (unfortunately) doesn't have this option (and please save me the C# vs. VB discussion). I wouldn't call this a code horror, but in this case an import ofSystem.Textdoes seem logical. The real horror might be that you use 100+StringBuildersinstead of re-use one... But I'll leave that to you :)It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}"VB (unfortunately) doesn't have this option (and please save me the C# vs. VB discussion)." It does have that option, at least in the version I've used (VB2010)
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"VB (unfortunately) doesn't have this option (and please save me the C# vs. VB discussion)." It does have that option, at least in the version I've used (VB2010)
Really? I was never able to find it. Just right click and...?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
