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  • L leppie

    You made a small interpretation mistake (I do it all the time too). The result is the minimum period, not the number of repeats :)

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    Ah yes I remember that part now. Did think it was a bit strange that I thought I could see an error after only a couple of seconds looking at something you had looked at for hours. Thought it must have been me going wrong somewhere and was interested to know where.

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    • L leppie

      Was given a problem that was suppose to come from the 'easy' bin. Two hours later I was still not finished... On the plus side, the interviewer attempted the problem at the same time, and also got stuck :) He said the problem must have been miscategorized. He told me to finish at home and to send the solution when done ;p Anyways, after a good nights sleep (with some wack apocalyptic dream I had), I started from scratch and coded a solution in about an hour this morning. The given problem: Binary period (dont bother googling for answers as you will likely just end up getting astronomy results or if you have google foo, a few very mathematical papers mostly related to cryptography) Given a number N larger than 0 (range was given, but does not matter), find the minimum period of repeating bit sequences or -1 if none is found. Examples

      110110110 => 3 (as 110 repeats)
      11011011 => 3 (still 3 and valid as the remaining subset, 11, is in 110)
      110110111 => -1 (no period)
      101 => -1 (no repeats, repeat implies at least 2 sequences)
      10101 => 2 (repeat at least over 2 sequences)
      11 => 1

      10101010101 => 2
      111011011101101110 => 7
      111111111111111110 => -1

      My answer in Scheme can be viewed and run here[^]. Edit: Web host seems to be down now... Edit 2: Seems to be back up again, please only look one at a time ;p Damn you shared hosting. If above link is down, view here[^].

      IronScheme
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      Jonathan Nethercott
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      This looks like correlation (autocorrelation?) to me. I would look for a solution along the lines of: num xor (num shift left 1) num xor (num shift left 2) etc. repeat until (number of bits / 2) Not a very good bit of pseudo code, but hopefully you get the idea ;) I'm not sure how you'd deal with leading and trailing parts of a sequence, but I'm sure there must be an elegant way of incorporating that...

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      • L leppie

        Was given a problem that was suppose to come from the 'easy' bin. Two hours later I was still not finished... On the plus side, the interviewer attempted the problem at the same time, and also got stuck :) He said the problem must have been miscategorized. He told me to finish at home and to send the solution when done ;p Anyways, after a good nights sleep (with some wack apocalyptic dream I had), I started from scratch and coded a solution in about an hour this morning. The given problem: Binary period (dont bother googling for answers as you will likely just end up getting astronomy results or if you have google foo, a few very mathematical papers mostly related to cryptography) Given a number N larger than 0 (range was given, but does not matter), find the minimum period of repeating bit sequences or -1 if none is found. Examples

        110110110 => 3 (as 110 repeats)
        11011011 => 3 (still 3 and valid as the remaining subset, 11, is in 110)
        110110111 => -1 (no period)
        101 => -1 (no repeats, repeat implies at least 2 sequences)
        10101 => 2 (repeat at least over 2 sequences)
        11 => 1

        10101010101 => 2
        111011011101101110 => 7
        111111111111111110 => -1

        My answer in Scheme can be viewed and run here[^]. Edit: Web host seems to be down now... Edit 2: Seems to be back up again, please only look one at a time ;p Damn you shared hosting. If above link is down, view here[^].

        IronScheme
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        Septimus Hedgehog
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        When will you hear if you've got the job? Best of luck.

        "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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        • L leppie

          Was given a problem that was suppose to come from the 'easy' bin. Two hours later I was still not finished... On the plus side, the interviewer attempted the problem at the same time, and also got stuck :) He said the problem must have been miscategorized. He told me to finish at home and to send the solution when done ;p Anyways, after a good nights sleep (with some wack apocalyptic dream I had), I started from scratch and coded a solution in about an hour this morning. The given problem: Binary period (dont bother googling for answers as you will likely just end up getting astronomy results or if you have google foo, a few very mathematical papers mostly related to cryptography) Given a number N larger than 0 (range was given, but does not matter), find the minimum period of repeating bit sequences or -1 if none is found. Examples

          110110110 => 3 (as 110 repeats)
          11011011 => 3 (still 3 and valid as the remaining subset, 11, is in 110)
          110110111 => -1 (no period)
          101 => -1 (no repeats, repeat implies at least 2 sequences)
          10101 => 2 (repeat at least over 2 sequences)
          11 => 1

          10101010101 => 2
          111011011101101110 => 7
          111111111111111110 => -1

          My answer in Scheme can be viewed and run here[^]. Edit: Web host seems to be down now... Edit 2: Seems to be back up again, please only look one at a time ;p Damn you shared hosting. If above link is down, view here[^].

          IronScheme
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          Member 2053006
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          Is the simplistic solution of starting with length 1 and checking each character, then increasing to length 2 etc too processor intensive? e.g. for 11011011 1 1 0 O O - Not 1, so period is not 1. K K 11 01 10 11 OK - Not 11, so period is not 2 110 110 11 All OK - Period is 3. Failing that would a FFT work on this information?

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            Is the simplistic solution of starting with length 1 and checking each character, then increasing to length 2 etc too processor intensive? e.g. for 11011011 1 1 0 O O - Not 1, so period is not 1. K K 11 01 10 11 OK - Not 11, so period is not 2 110 110 11 All OK - Period is 3. Failing that would a FFT work on this information?

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            leppie
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            Member 2053006 wrote:

            Failing that would a FFT work on this information?

            That was my first thought, but coding one from scratch with no external help is a bit tough I think :) That is probably the most efficient way to do it.

            IronScheme
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            • J Jonathan Nethercott

              This looks like correlation (autocorrelation?) to me. I would look for a solution along the lines of: num xor (num shift left 1) num xor (num shift left 2) etc. repeat until (number of bits / 2) Not a very good bit of pseudo code, but hopefully you get the idea ;) I'm not sure how you'd deal with leading and trailing parts of a sequence, but I'm sure there must be an elegant way of incorporating that...

              Jon CodeWrite

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              leppie
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              Jon Nethercott wrote:

              I'm not sure how you'd deal with leading and trailing parts of a sequence, but I'm sure there must be an elegant way of incorporating that...

              There are no leading parts (thank FSM!). As for the trailing bit, my elegant solution was to do a negative right shift (see line 11, when rs is negative) that fits into the rest (test on line 17). Brain too tired to remember exactly what I did there now ;p

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              • S Septimus Hedgehog

                When will you hear if you've got the job? Best of luck.

                "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                leppie
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                PHS241 wrote:

                When will you hear if you've got the job?

                He wants to have another telephonic discussion next week and I guess an offer will be made at that stage, if they so desire.

                IronScheme
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                • L leppie

                  Jon Nethercott wrote:

                  I'm not sure how you'd deal with leading and trailing parts of a sequence, but I'm sure there must be an elegant way of incorporating that...

                  There are no leading parts (thank FSM!). As for the trailing bit, my elegant solution was to do a negative right shift (see line 11, when rs is negative) that fits into the rest (test on line 17). Brain too tired to remember exactly what I did there now ;p

                  IronScheme
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                  Jonathan Nethercott
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                  I think this should do it:

                  private int BinaryPeriod(int num)
                  {
                  int result = -1;
                  int numBits = (int)((Math.Log(num) / Math.Log(2))) + 1;

                  for (int i = 1; i <= numBits / 2 && result == -1; i++)
                  {
                      if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)
                          result = i;
                  }
                  return result;
                  

                  }

                  I've done it in C#, but hopefully it should be fairly generic code. The important line is:

                  if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)

                  which strips the top i bits and XORs that with num right shifted. If the result is 0 then we have found an autocorrelation.

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                  • J Jonathan Nethercott

                    I think this should do it:

                    private int BinaryPeriod(int num)
                    {
                    int result = -1;
                    int numBits = (int)((Math.Log(num) / Math.Log(2))) + 1;

                    for (int i = 1; i <= numBits / 2 && result == -1; i++)
                    {
                        if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)
                            result = i;
                    }
                    return result;
                    

                    }

                    I've done it in C#, but hopefully it should be fairly generic code. The important line is:

                    if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)

                    which strips the top i bits and XORs that with num right shifted. If the result is 0 then we have found an autocorrelation.

                    Jon CodeWrite

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                    leppie
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                    Very good! Wish I knew of it :(

                    IronScheme
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                    • J Jonathan Nethercott

                      I think this should do it:

                      private int BinaryPeriod(int num)
                      {
                      int result = -1;
                      int numBits = (int)((Math.Log(num) / Math.Log(2))) + 1;

                      for (int i = 1; i <= numBits / 2 && result == -1; i++)
                      {
                          if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)
                              result = i;
                      }
                      return result;
                      

                      }

                      I've done it in C#, but hopefully it should be fairly generic code. The important line is:

                      if (((num & ((1 << (numBits - i)) - 1)) ^ (num >> i)) == 0)

                      which strips the top i bits and XORs that with num right shifted. If the result is 0 then we have found an autocorrelation.

                      Jon CodeWrite

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                      leppie
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                      And here we have it in Scheme :) http://eval.ironscheme.net/?id=59[^] Thanks again!

                      IronScheme
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                      • L leppie

                        Very good! Wish I knew of it :(

                        IronScheme
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                        Jonathan Nethercott
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                        Thank you :) I love solving problems like this - although that has distracted me a bit from what I'm supposed to be doing ;P Good luck with the job!

                        Jon CodeWrite

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                        • L leppie

                          Was given a problem that was suppose to come from the 'easy' bin. Two hours later I was still not finished... On the plus side, the interviewer attempted the problem at the same time, and also got stuck :) He said the problem must have been miscategorized. He told me to finish at home and to send the solution when done ;p Anyways, after a good nights sleep (with some wack apocalyptic dream I had), I started from scratch and coded a solution in about an hour this morning. The given problem: Binary period (dont bother googling for answers as you will likely just end up getting astronomy results or if you have google foo, a few very mathematical papers mostly related to cryptography) Given a number N larger than 0 (range was given, but does not matter), find the minimum period of repeating bit sequences or -1 if none is found. Examples

                          110110110 => 3 (as 110 repeats)
                          11011011 => 3 (still 3 and valid as the remaining subset, 11, is in 110)
                          110110111 => -1 (no period)
                          101 => -1 (no repeats, repeat implies at least 2 sequences)
                          10101 => 2 (repeat at least over 2 sequences)
                          11 => 1

                          10101010101 => 2
                          111011011101101110 => 7
                          111111111111111110 => -1

                          My answer in Scheme can be viewed and run here[^]. Edit: Web host seems to be down now... Edit 2: Seems to be back up again, please only look one at a time ;p Damn you shared hosting. If above link is down, view here[^].

                          IronScheme
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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          Heh, I had to do that in University.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            Heh, I had to do that in University.

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                            leppie
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                            Was that some kind of homework or other task? Perhaps thesis? ;p

                            IronScheme
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                            • L leppie

                              Was that some kind of homework or other task? Perhaps thesis? ;p

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              Well my degree was computer science. All we did was learn stuff like this. Wouldn't say I knew much about "programming" until after school. But solving problems with code, easy.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                Well my degree was computer science. All we did was learn stuff like this. Wouldn't say I knew much about "programming" until after school. But solving problems with code, easy.

                                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                leppie
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                                Not even in my 2nd year course (just before I decided to go back to working class) we did stuff like this... I left when when we were busy with Data Structures and Algorithms.

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