Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
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The problem is to define the cells or connections points if you will, that would have color, tooltip, storage of all the matrix calculation in continous time etc. If you also add mouse down and mouse over you are usually in a lot of trouble simulation wise if you use shapes or UIElement. So I was thinking of using a bitmap picture for it, and separate it completely from the calculations. But then I could not easily do all the nice edition features, but still, I dont know of a faster way of showing simulations than that. I could in edit mode just calculate whitch cell got cliked but I dont know if that would be faster, proberbly though but I havent tried. As you understand its really at the thinking stage at the moment :)
For WPF I'd go for a view model exposing only the data related to the visual elements, with an underlying "real model" for the calculations.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
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For WPF I'd go for a view model exposing only the data related to the visual elements, with an underlying "real model" for the calculations.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
Well, I also though a 3D simulation of the Pressurewave would be cool: http://stuff.seans.com/2008/08/24/raindrop-animation-in-wpf/[^]
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For WPF I'd go for a view model exposing only the data related to the visual elements, with an underlying "real model" for the calculations.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
The problem with TLM is that you roughly speaking need 4 nodes per wavelength, and the human ear stops at 20 000 HZ, so thats my reason for wanting the Bitmap image.
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I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?
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The problem with TLM is that you roughly speaking need 4 nodes per wavelength, and the human ear stops at 20 000 HZ, so thats my reason for wanting the Bitmap image.
What about using a Point cloud? like PCL[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
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Kenneth Haugland wrote:
en do you really want to use pure C++?
Excluding subjective preferences and circular reasoning when do you "really" want to use C#, or Java or PHP?
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What about using a Point cloud? like PCL[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
Sounds interesting, can I use it in WPF directly as an imported library, and mess around with it? Hmm, seems like I would have to design a wrapper class from scratch: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11053212/point-cloud-viewer-in-net[^] Unless you want ot design it for me :-D Could actually be an article in itself. I know fx files could be imported, is there a really cool magnifyer for silverlight here: http://www.silverlightshow.net/items/Behaviors-and-Triggers-in-Silverlight-3.aspx[^] perhaps something simular could be done with PCL?
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Sounds interesting, can I use it in WPF directly as an imported library, and mess around with it? Hmm, seems like I would have to design a wrapper class from scratch: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11053212/point-cloud-viewer-in-net[^] Unless you want ot design it for me :-D Could actually be an article in itself. I know fx files could be imported, is there a really cool magnifyer for silverlight here: http://www.silverlightshow.net/items/Behaviors-and-Triggers-in-Silverlight-3.aspx[^] perhaps something simular could be done with PCL?
Marcos André da Frota Mattos has written an interesting paper on transmission-line modeling - getting the exact link is troublesome, but it shows up on this Google search[^] - it's a PDF file.
Kenneth Haugland wrote:
I use it in WPF directly as an imported library
Nope, it's a C++ library with visualization based on VTK[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
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Marcos André da Frota Mattos has written an interesting paper on transmission-line modeling - getting the exact link is troublesome, but it shows up on this Google search[^] - it's a PDF file.
Kenneth Haugland wrote:
I use it in WPF directly as an imported library
Nope, it's a C++ library with visualization based on VTK[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
I usually interpet interesting as good idea but a lot of work :-D
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Marcos André da Frota Mattos has written an interesting paper on transmission-line modeling - getting the exact link is troublesome, but it shows up on this Google search[^] - it's a PDF file.
Kenneth Haugland wrote:
I use it in WPF directly as an imported library
Nope, it's a C++ library with visualization based on VTK[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
Anyway, I found this too: http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsdesktop/CppCLINativeDllWrapper-29c32acd[^] So now its just a matter of the work to be done :cool:
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Anyway, I found this too: http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsdesktop/CppCLINativeDllWrapper-29c32acd[^] So now its just a matter of the work to be done :cool:
I wrote this article,Using ACE with C++ CLI[^], to show how easy it is to use mixed mode C++/CLI. The key thing is to use:
#pragma managed(push,off)
// Native code goes here
#pragma managed(pop)
// Managed code goes hereTransition between managed and unmaged code is handled by the compiler.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
VS 2012 is far better than VS 2010 as it is much faster. By the way, 2 gb of memory is not enough for large projects particulary C++. When I upgrade from 2 to 4 gb (on a 32 bit OS), I got an improvement of about 25% for build time. Express edition will run much faster on a computer but it is also much more less powerfull.
Philippe Mori
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VS 2012 is far better than VS 2010 as it is much faster. By the way, 2 gb of memory is not enough for large projects particulary C++. When I upgrade from 2 to 4 gb (on a 32 bit OS), I got an improvement of about 25% for build time. Express edition will run much faster on a computer but it is also much more less powerfull.
Philippe Mori
Don't forget that currently 2012's IDE cannot be run on anything older than Windows 7 and can't target anything older than Vista (i.e. XP). There will be an updated to allow it to build XP executables, but it's nbot out yet.
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
It's especially good if you're hard of hearing.
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
Besides the technology reasons (.Net 4.5, C++ improvements, etc.) one biggie for me is that it is REALLY snappy; not only that, but Microsoft finally ate their own dog food and made a good effort at making the product asyncronous - a good example is that project loading now happens in the background, which really helps with some of my larger solutions. VS2010 was a boon and a bane, VS2012 is a definite boon.
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
I find it's nicer visually than 2010, it feels faster and generally more responsive. That's not to say it's perfect though, things I still don't like since I started using it on the day it was released. 1. Upper case menu items, these still drive me nuts! Why is VS2012 shouting at me? 2. The team explorer window when using TFS. That almost everything loads into this 1 window is insane, fine the old way use to involve lots of tabs, but at least I could switch between them 3. Colors, some days it feels like psychedelic vomit on my eyes, other days it's just bland Overall it is an improvement on 2012, but it's still not perfect. Now, Sublime Text 2 on the other hand, I love coding in that :)
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I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?
Kenneth Haugland wrote:
I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff.
Not at all - as with any language there can be a variety of reasons. Performance and portability are two oft-quoted ones, but it really depends on the developers involved and what they're trying to do. If our customer base is anything to go by, the Engineering, Financial and Games sectors make very heavy use of C++. To be honest I've been using C++ for so long now that the language I know as C++ (C++ 11, with all that entails) probably bears only a passing resemblance to the one you're thinking of. Our own Visual Lint[^] (360 kLOC in 47 projects) is written almost entirely* in native C++ (using WTL[^] for the UI bits), and it's definitely the right choice for the environment for us (that last bit is important). Other considerations aside, pushing a specific version of the .NET framework into a third party process is a big no-no (this is why you must never write Explorer shell extensions in managed languages). Once XP runtime support is available in VS2012, we will take a decision on whether to move the codebase to it from VS2008 - if not we're almost certainly going to switch to the Intel C++ compiler in VS2008 so we can take full advantage of its C++ 11 support. * The tiny bit that isn't is Java, as Eclipse has Java interfaces. By contrast Visual Studio has COM interfaces which are easy to drive with C++ smart pointers.
Kenneth Haugland wrote:
When do you really want to use pure C++?
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Title says it all. It was the best version.
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Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"