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Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012

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  • K Keith Barrow

    2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
    -Or-
    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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    Johnny J
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    Keith Barrow wrote:

    I perfer the dark theme

    Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

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    • E Espen Harlinn

      What about:

      • C++ AMP[^]
      • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
      • C++ IntelliSense[^]

      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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      Kenneth Haugland
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      Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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        Keith Barrow wrote:

        I perfer the dark theme

        Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

        Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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        Keith Barrow
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        I find your lack of faith disturbing ;P

        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
        -Or-
        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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          Espen Harlinn
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          Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Why ask for a promotion or an increase in pay then? :)

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            • E Espen Harlinn

              Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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              Kenneth Haugland
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              So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                My i7 handles vs 2010 very well. But I only have 32gb of ram. Here on site, I have a i5 with 4gb and it seems well enough.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                • K Kenneth Haugland

                  So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                  lewax00
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                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                  I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                  Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                    realJSOP
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                    So you can hate them with the rest of us...

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                    • L lewax00

                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                      I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                      Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                      Kenneth Haugland
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                      I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                        I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                        Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                        Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                        I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                          Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                          Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                          I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                          Kenneth Haugland
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                          Looks like the bought some code from intel inseted: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8870442/how-is-math-pow-implemented-in-net-framework/8870593#8870593[^] My bad :)

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                          • K Kenneth Haugland

                            So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                            Espen Harlinn
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                            Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                            I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                            Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                            Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                            Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                            Higher languages?

                            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                            • E Espen Harlinn

                              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                              I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                              Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                              Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                              Higher languages?

                              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                              Kenneth Haugland
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                              Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                              • K Kenneth Haugland

                                Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                                Espen Harlinn
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                                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++

                                How?

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                                • E Espen Harlinn

                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++

                                  How?

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                                  Kenneth Haugland
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                                  My understanding of C++ is that its mostly used for a lot of detailed oriented tasks, while C# and VB does not have the easy ability to every thing, so a Higher level languange that is more removed from the assembly code.

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                                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                                    My understanding of C++ is that its mostly used for a lot of detailed oriented tasks, while C# and VB does not have the easy ability to every thing, so a Higher level languange that is more removed from the assembly code.

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                                    Espen Harlinn
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                                    To me a higher level language supports higher level constructs, and the development of such constructs, enabling the developer to clearly formulate a program through code. Doing this in C++ is usually easier than in c#. What C++ lacks is extensive standard runtime libraries ...

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                      Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                      Paul Conrad
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                                      That looks very interesting :)

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                                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                                        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Title says it all. It was the best version.

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                                        • E Espen Harlinn

                                          To me a higher level language supports higher level constructs, and the development of such constructs, enabling the developer to clearly formulate a program through code. Doing this in C++ is usually easier than in c#. What C++ lacks is extensive standard runtime libraries ...

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                          Kenneth Haugland
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                                          Eh oh, I was bussy doing this: Mario5[^] Addictice game I must say :-D

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                                          Doing this in C++ is usually easier than in c#

                                          My take is this: I think C# is faster to program in, and C++ takes longer time, but C# implements more general methods and can therefor be slower than C++. But then again, you could do assembely to have complete control but it will take ages. Remember that newer programming langauges dont really allow you to do anything that couldnt be done on a commandore 64, but It would take a lot longer time to do it :-D (A little over the top but still ;) )

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