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Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012

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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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    Tadit Dash
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    I don't know about the features of VS 2008 as I have not worked on it. But Simple but Interesting Features of VS2010 and C# 4.0[^] can give you some reasons why to upgrade. :). And if you really want to explore, then go through Visual Studio 2010 Features [^].:thumbsup:

    My 1st Tip/Trick File Download from the GridView rows in asp.net 4.0

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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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      Keith Barrow
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      2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
      -Or-
      A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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        Mladen Jankovic
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        C++11, better editor, more responsive GUI and probably more, if these are things you care about, then upgrade.

        GALex

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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          Espen Harlinn
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          What about:

          • C++ AMP[^]
          • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
          • C++ IntelliSense[^]

          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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          • K Keith Barrow

            2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

            Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
            -Or-
            A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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            Johnny J
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            Keith Barrow wrote:

            I perfer the dark theme

            Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

            Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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              What about:

              • C++ AMP[^]
              • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
              • C++ IntelliSense[^]

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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              Kenneth Haugland
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              Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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              • J Johnny J

                Keith Barrow wrote:

                I perfer the dark theme

                Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

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                Keith Barrow
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                I find your lack of faith disturbing ;P

                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                -Or-
                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                • K Kenneth Haugland

                  Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                  Espen Harlinn
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                  Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    Why ask for a promotion or an increase in pay then? :)

                    Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                    • E Espen Harlinn

                      Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                      Kenneth Haugland
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                      So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        My i7 handles vs 2010 very well. But I only have 32gb of ram. Here on site, I have a i5 with 4gb and it seems well enough.

                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                          So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                          lewax00
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                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                          I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                          Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                          • V Vasily Tserekh

                            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                            realJSOP
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                            So you can hate them with the rest of us...

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            • L lewax00

                              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                              I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                              Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                              Kenneth Haugland
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                              I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                              • K Kenneth Haugland

                                I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                lewax00
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                                Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                  Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                  I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                  Kenneth Haugland
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                                  Looks like the bought some code from intel inseted: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8870442/how-is-math-pow-implemented-in-net-framework/8870593#8870593[^] My bad :)

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                                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                                    So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                                    Espen Harlinn
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                                    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                    I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                    Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                    Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                    Higher languages?

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                    • E Espen Harlinn

                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                      Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                      Higher languages?

                                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                      Kenneth Haugland
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                                      Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                                        Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                                        Espen Harlinn
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                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++

                                        How?

                                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                        • E Espen Harlinn

                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++

                                          How?

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                          Kenneth Haugland
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                                          My understanding of C++ is that its mostly used for a lot of detailed oriented tasks, while C# and VB does not have the easy ability to every thing, so a Higher level languange that is more removed from the assembly code.

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