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Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012

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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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    lewax00
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    Because Microsoft needs more money!

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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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      Maximilien
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      VS2010 is/was a pig (at least for C++ projects). VS2012 looks to be a lot more faster and converted our VS2008 project more easily.

      Watched code never compiles.

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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        Tadit Dash
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        I don't know about the features of VS 2008 as I have not worked on it. But Simple but Interesting Features of VS2010 and C# 4.0[^] can give you some reasons why to upgrade. :). And if you really want to explore, then go through Visual Studio 2010 Features [^].:thumbsup:

        My 1st Tip/Trick File Download from the GridView rows in asp.net 4.0

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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          Keith Barrow
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          2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
          -Or-
          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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            Mladen Jankovic
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            C++11, better editor, more responsive GUI and probably more, if these are things you care about, then upgrade.

            GALex

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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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              Espen Harlinn
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              What about:

              • C++ AMP[^]
              • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
              • C++ IntelliSense[^]

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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              • K Keith Barrow

                2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                -Or-
                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                Johnny J
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                Keith Barrow wrote:

                I perfer the dark theme

                Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

                Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                • E Espen Harlinn

                  What about:

                  • C++ AMP[^]
                  • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
                  • C++ IntelliSense[^]

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                  Kenneth Haugland
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                  Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                  • J Johnny J

                    Keith Barrow wrote:

                    I perfer the dark theme

                    Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    I find your lack of faith disturbing ;P

                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                    -Or-
                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    • K Kenneth Haugland

                      Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                      Espen Harlinn
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                      Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Why ask for a promotion or an increase in pay then? :)

                        Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                        • E Espen Harlinn

                          Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                          Kenneth Haugland
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                          So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                          • V Vasily Tserekh

                            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                            My i7 handles vs 2010 very well. But I only have 32gb of ram. Here on site, I have a i5 with 4gb and it seems well enough.

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                            • K Kenneth Haugland

                              So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                              lewax00
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                              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                              I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                              Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                              • V Vasily Tserekh

                                I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                                realJSOP
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                                So you can hate them with the rest of us...

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                • L lewax00

                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                  Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                                  Kenneth Haugland
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                                  I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                                    I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                    lewax00
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                                    Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                    Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                    I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                      Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                      I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                      Kenneth Haugland
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                                      Looks like the bought some code from intel inseted: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8870442/how-is-math-pow-implemented-in-net-framework/8870593#8870593[^] My bad :)

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                                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                                        So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                                        Espen Harlinn
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                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                        Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                        Higher languages?

                                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                        • E Espen Harlinn

                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                          Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                          Higher languages?

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                          Kenneth Haugland
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                                          Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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