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Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012

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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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    Maximilien
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    VS2010 is/was a pig (at least for C++ projects). VS2012 looks to be a lot more faster and converted our VS2008 project more easily.

    Watched code never compiles.

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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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      Tadit Dash
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      I don't know about the features of VS 2008 as I have not worked on it. But Simple but Interesting Features of VS2010 and C# 4.0[^] can give you some reasons why to upgrade. :). And if you really want to explore, then go through Visual Studio 2010 Features [^].:thumbsup:

      My 1st Tip/Trick File Download from the GridView rows in asp.net 4.0

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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        Keith Barrow
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        2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
        -Or-
        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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          Mladen Jankovic
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          C++11, better editor, more responsive GUI and probably more, if these are things you care about, then upgrade.

          GALex

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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            Espen Harlinn
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            What about:

            • C++ AMP[^]
            • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
            • C++ IntelliSense[^]

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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            • K Keith Barrow

              2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
              -Or-
              A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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              Johnny J
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              Keith Barrow wrote:

              I perfer the dark theme

              Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

              Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                What about:

                • C++ AMP[^]
                • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
                • C++ IntelliSense[^]

                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                Kenneth Haugland
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                Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                • J Johnny J

                  Keith Barrow wrote:

                  I perfer the dark theme

                  Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

                  Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                  Keith Barrow
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                  I find your lack of faith disturbing ;P

                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                  -Or-
                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                    Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                    Espen Harlinn
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                    Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                    • V Vasily Tserekh

                      I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                      Why ask for a promotion or an increase in pay then? :)

                      Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                      • E Espen Harlinn

                        Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                        Kenneth Haugland
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                        So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                          I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          My i7 handles vs 2010 very well. But I only have 32gb of ram. Here on site, I have a i5 with 4gb and it seems well enough.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                          • K Kenneth Haugland

                            So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                            lewax00
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                            Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                            I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                            Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                            • V Vasily Tserekh

                              I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                              realJSOP
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                              So you can hate them with the rest of us...

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              • L lewax00

                                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                                Kenneth Haugland
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                                I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                • K Kenneth Haugland

                                  I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                  lewax00
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                                  Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                  I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                    Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                    Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                    I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                    Kenneth Haugland
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                                    Looks like the bought some code from intel inseted: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8870442/how-is-math-pow-implemented-in-net-framework/8870593#8870593[^] My bad :)

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                                    • K Kenneth Haugland

                                      So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                                      Espen Harlinn
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                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                      Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                      Higher languages?

                                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                      • E Espen Harlinn

                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                        Usually not, that would be C++/CLI

                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

                                        Higher languages?

                                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                                        Kenneth Haugland
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                                        Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                                          Well I meant High-level programming language but was thinking of C# and VB, but I guess C++ fits in too. But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++ :-D

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                                          Espen Harlinn
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                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          But I think I can classify C# as Higher than C++

                                          How?

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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