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Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012

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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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    Albert Holguin
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    That's a good question... I'm sort of on the same boat... been using VS2008 for a while and I like it, so I haven't had any big reason to want to switch. I've used VS6, 2003, 2005, and now 2008... and 2008 has been a lot better than the older ones...maybe that's a good enough reason to upgrade, the product has gotten a lot better over time.

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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Well, .NET 4 and 4.5 are generally smaller runtimes than earlier versions (depending on what profile you use), and they have bug fixes in them - and you can't target them from VS2008 (although you could run them with csc.exe if you really wanted to).

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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        lewax00
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        Because Microsoft needs more money!

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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          Maximilien
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          VS2010 is/was a pig (at least for C++ projects). VS2012 looks to be a lot more faster and converted our VS2008 project more easily.

          Watched code never compiles.

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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            Tadit Dash
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            I don't know about the features of VS 2008 as I have not worked on it. But Simple but Interesting Features of VS2010 and C# 4.0[^] can give you some reasons why to upgrade. :). And if you really want to explore, then go through Visual Studio 2010 Features [^].:thumbsup:

            My 1st Tip/Trick File Download from the GridView rows in asp.net 4.0

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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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              Keith Barrow
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              2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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              A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                Mladen Jankovic
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                C++11, better editor, more responsive GUI and probably more, if these are things you care about, then upgrade.

                GALex

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                • V Vasily Tserekh

                  I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                  Espen Harlinn
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                  What about:

                  • C++ AMP[^]
                  • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
                  • C++ IntelliSense[^]

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                  • K Keith Barrow

                    2012 is much faster at compiling large projects and I perfer the dark theme.

                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                    -Or-
                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    Johnny J
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                    Keith Barrow wrote:

                    I perfer the dark theme

                    Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

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                      What about:

                      • C++ AMP[^]
                      • Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization[^]
                      • C++ IntelliSense[^]

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                      Kenneth Haugland
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                      Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Keith Barrow wrote:

                        I perfer the dark theme

                        Just for that, I ought to downvote you... (but I won't) ;)

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                        Keith Barrow
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                        I find your lack of faith disturbing ;P

                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                          Oh, can you do Auto-Parallelization and Auto-Vectorization in C# and VB too?

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                          Espen Harlinn
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                          Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                          • V Vasily Tserekh

                            I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            Why ask for a promotion or an increase in pay then? :)

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                              Parallel C#[^], not sure how far they've got though

                              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

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                              Kenneth Haugland
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                              So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                              • V Vasily Tserekh

                                I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                My i7 handles vs 2010 very well. But I only have 32gb of ram. Here on site, I have a i5 with 4gb and it seems well enough.

                                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                • K Kenneth Haugland

                                  So automated parallel is just available in C++, that sounds strange, I though C++ used the .NET library, no? Than it seems a little strange not to include the function in the higher languages or?

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                                  lewax00
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                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                  Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                                    I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    So you can hate them with the rest of us...

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                                    • L lewax00

                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      I though C++ used the .NET library, no?

                                      Only if you're doing C++/CLI, you can still do pure native C++.

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                                      Kenneth Haugland
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                                      I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                                        I thought you only used pure C++ with driver development or other specific hardware stuff. Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core? When do you really want to use pure C++?

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                                        lewax00
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                                        Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                        I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                          Drivers/hardware/other low level stuff is one reason. Native code is also commonly used for graphical applications, e.g. DirectX/OpenGL. Or code that can be compiled and run on multiple platforms. There are plenty of reasons, the basic rule is "use the language that's right for the job".

                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          Anyways I also though some of the .NET libraries came from Intels core?

                                          I've never heard that, so I have no idea. But .Net libraries run on the CLR, which is written in a native language I would think.

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                                          Kenneth Haugland
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                                          Looks like the bought some code from intel inseted: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8870442/how-is-math-pow-implemented-in-net-framework/8870593#8870593[^] My bad :)

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