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  • L L Viljoen

    OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

    Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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    Nemanja Trifunovic
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    For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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      Do you ever say anything interesting enough for someone to bother? Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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      L Viljoen
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      ChrisElston wrote:

      Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

      Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

      Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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        Tell your boss that they most likely had a rooted device where they had admin permissions and the same has been done with Apple devices. Then get on with your life.

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        L Viljoen
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        That is most likely my thought on the matter , becuase apparently the presenter made emphasis this is a fully updated version of ICS , then started his hack via a laptop connected on the same wireless network . but I mean without root access of something giving him some manner of admin privelages on the device I simply do not see a way you can hack any device be it android or IOS.

        Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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        • L L Viljoen

          ChrisElston wrote:

          Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

          Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

          Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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          TPFKAPB
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          It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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            It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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            L Viljoen
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            Ah cos we was refering to my posts. so I assumed that it was about my posts on CP.

            Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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            • T TPFKAPB

              It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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              Lost User
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              TPFKAPB wrote:

              I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

              At least mine is curtious enough to keep those conversationss in the bedroom.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              • L L Viljoen

                OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

                Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                0bx
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                I've heard they Electrocuted an elephant[^] with a galaxy s2.

                Giraffes are not real.

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                  thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

                  I agree, this is beginning to look like a distinct possibility. /ravi

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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                    lewax00
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                    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                    he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market

                    Based on what exactly? They aren't even in that market, nor to my knowledge have they announced plans to move into that market. Seems like his claim is based on pure guessing to me...

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                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                      For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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                      Lost User
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                      Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                      For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

                      Yeah... I bet enterprise systems will just suddenly go to an open source OS :rolleyes:

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                        I've heard they Electrocuted an elephant[^] with a galaxy s2.

                        Giraffes are not real.

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                        Lost User
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                        On a serious note I think they should have a "Taser" feature in all the newer smart phones. Think of the benefit! When on the subway or whatever everyone is zoned in on their phone. Some criminal comes up "Hey give me your money!" -swipe, tap tap... ZAPPPPAAPAPAPAPA... "AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!" I know I would feel safer if my S3 had a taze feature. Would be fun at parties too ;P

                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                        • L lewax00

                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                          he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market

                          Based on what exactly? They aren't even in that market, nor to my knowledge have they announced plans to move into that market. Seems like his claim is based on pure guessing to me...

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          lewax00 wrote:

                          Based on what exactly?

                          Based on a lot of activity in this area.  Bluestacks[^] and AMD[^] are closely involved in developing this technology.  Nobody's suggesting that every Microsoft shop is going to turn to desktop Android, but I think it's a distinct possibility that desktop Android could find its way into the marketplace. /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

                            Yeah... I bet enterprise systems will just suddenly go to an open source OS :rolleyes:

                            Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                            I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced

                            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                              he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market

                              Based on what exactly? They aren't even in that market, nor to my knowledge have they announced plans to move into that market. Seems like his claim is based on pure guessing to me...

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                              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                              I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced this seems to be knee jerk reaction rather than reading what is actually written

                              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced

                                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                Lost User
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                                Ah yes. I did miss that point. I would still doubt it though. Mobile devices are so sandboxed unless the user roots it there is little concern. And those users are very limited, and tend to know what they are doing.

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                  Ah yes. I did miss that point. I would still doubt it though. Mobile devices are so sandboxed unless the user roots it there is little concern. And those users are very limited, and tend to know what they are doing.

                                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                  But security companies like to sell products and there are probably more privately owned phones than PCs so a bigger potential market - especially if they can drum up some scare stories

                                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                    I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced this seems to be knee jerk reaction rather than reading what is actually written

                                    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                    lewax00
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                                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                                    he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced

                                    Oh, that makes more sense. I misinterpreted it as Android will replace Windows on desktops, and there doesn't seem to be any basis to think that for that at the moment.

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                                      lewax00 wrote:

                                      Based on what exactly?

                                      Based on a lot of activity in this area.  Bluestacks[^] and AMD[^] are closely involved in developing this technology.  Nobody's suggesting that every Microsoft shop is going to turn to desktop Android, but I think it's a distinct possibility that desktop Android could find its way into the marketplace. /ravi

                                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      lewax00
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                                      That's still not Android, that's just the apps. That's just emulation, not even close a useable desktop operating system. And honestly Android's model doesn't make much sense on a desktop, it's designed for low power, low resource devices. It's great on a phone, but it would be really annoying if your desktop OS started doing things closing programs you're running to free up memory without asking you, or only allow one running foreground program at a time.

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                                        But security companies like to sell products and there are probably more privately owned phones than PCs so a bigger potential market - especially if they can drum up some scare stories

                                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                                        so a bigger potential market

                                        Bigger potential market does not mean it will surpass the already in place market that exists. Its like pennies on the dollar in comparison. In a large enterprise system there are more PCs than people. This will not change. In addition they buy very large licensing to ensure they can continually expand. Rarely (if ever) does an enterprise risk going without security software. However, very often individuals let their PCs go with out security software. So what makes you think that they will buy security software for their phone? While I am sure some will, they will likely be a minority. There is no way that the market will surpass that of the Windows market.

                                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                          ChrisElston wrote:

                                          Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                                          Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

                                          Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                                          Remind me never to answer any question you ask again if that's how you respond to answers.

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