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  • W wizardzz

    MehGerbil wrote:

    The problem I see here is that if they would have warned of a risk and a panic ensued they'd have been found guilty of something else entirely.

    Exactly, and then if the quake never came, they'd be sitting in jail like they are now. There is no way they can be liable for what is unpredictable, while people like the head of FEMA during Katrina sit free.

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    wizardzz wrote:

    here is no way they can be liable for what is unpredictable

    Agreed. This is stupid.

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    • E ednrg

      Unfortunately, we now live in a world where people believe they have to blame someone for everything, including natural disasters. For some reason people need to be TOLD what to do. I just don't understand this way of thinking.

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      It's what you get with a Nanny State as with most of Europe.

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      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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      • E ednrg

        People in the area of Katrina were warned to get out. Don't blame FEMA for people not believing what they were told.

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        wizardzz
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        FEMA did a lot of things wrong during Katrina, including suspending the 2nd Amendment.

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        • W wizardzz

          It's quite relevant to the title or the OP; but more-so the justice system of the country where these scientists were convicted.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          wizardzz wrote:

          It's quite relevant to the title

          Errm, no it's not. There was absolutely sod all to do with religion in the verdict, the article or even the case itself. By all means, trash peado (not pedo - that's to do with feet) priests in the Soapbox, but keep the lounge free from it.

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Really? Is there any proof that those people who lost there lives would have done something different and therefore would not have lost their lives? Chances are even if they had done something different some of them would have lost their lives anyway. Stupid ruling. The science is inexact.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            The science is inexact.

            Very true, but they did not bother to explain that, they merely claimed that there was no risk.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              wizardzz wrote:

              It's quite relevant to the title

              Errm, no it's not. There was absolutely sod all to do with religion in the verdict, the article or even the case itself. By all means, trash peado (not pedo - that's to do with feet) priests in the Soapbox, but keep the lounge free from it.

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              wizardzz
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              Meanwhile you start a UK vs. US spelling debate? Please, now that is the new Godwin's Law.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                wizardzz wrote:

                It's quite relevant to the title

                Errm, no it's not. There was absolutely sod all to do with religion in the verdict, the article or even the case itself. By all means, trash peado (not pedo - that's to do with feet) priests in the Soapbox, but keep the lounge free from it.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                I think he's welcome to trash pedophiles anywhere he likes. So long as it's on topic and relevant. And yes, it is "pedo" see here[^]

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • W wizardzz

                  FEMA did a lot of things wrong during Katrina, including suspending the 2nd Amendment.

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                  ednrg
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                  My point was that people were warned DAYS in advance. FEMA should never have been an issue if people just listened to the warnings and got out of there. Its a troubling trend that people are becoming more and more reliant on government. Self reliant people got out of there, were safe, and dealt with their flood insurance to rebuild their houses.

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                    "Six Italian scientists and an ex-government official have been sentenced to six years in prison over the 2009 deadly earthquake in L'Aquila. A regional court found them guilty of multiple manslaughter" :wtf: They should have put to trial all the engineers and building contractor who did not do their jobs of designing and building that can withstand earthquakes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20025626[^]

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                    this just in: Family of the Wicked Witch of the West suing OZ meteorologist www.google.com

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                    • E ednrg

                      My point was that people were warned DAYS in advance. FEMA should never have been an issue if people just listened to the warnings and got out of there. Its a troubling trend that people are becoming more and more reliant on government. Self reliant people got out of there, were safe, and dealt with their flood insurance to rebuild their houses.

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                      wizardzz
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                      I agree with your point. It is, however, FEMA's job to deal with whatever happens, people listening or not, and dealing with lawlessness by confiscating guns is IMO criminal.

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        I think he's welcome to trash pedophiles anywhere he likes. So long as it's on topic and relevant. And yes, it is "pedo" see here[^]

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        ahmed zahmed wrote:

                        And yes, it is "pedo"

                        I bow to your expertise on the terminology. The reason I don't think it's a topic for the lounge is that it's a one that can quickly degenerate beyond what is acceptable here. The soapbox is the perfect place for us to riff on these priests, not the lounge. And I stand by my main point that it has absolutely sod all to do with the topic at hand.

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                        • M Maximilien

                          "Six Italian scientists and an ex-government official have been sentenced to six years in prison over the 2009 deadly earthquake in L'Aquila. A regional court found them guilty of multiple manslaughter" :wtf: They should have put to trial all the engineers and building contractor who did not do their jobs of designing and building that can withstand earthquakes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20025626[^]

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                          Amar Chaudhary
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                          There is a recent hindi movie which suggest that in these cases the religious entities should pay for the damage as they are the one collecting premium on the name of god. IMDB[^]

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                          • W wizardzz

                            Meanwhile you start a UK vs. US spelling debate? Please, now that is the new Godwin's Law.

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                            It had nothing to do with a UK v US spelling - pedo means foot to me (as in pedometer), but that's probably prevalent with me being a Talipes sufferer. And it would be a greek spelling debate if you want to get technical because pedo is derived from greek in both of those cases.

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                              ahmed zahmed wrote:

                              And yes, it is "pedo"

                              I bow to your expertise on the terminology. The reason I don't think it's a topic for the lounge is that it's a one that can quickly degenerate beyond what is acceptable here. The soapbox is the perfect place for us to riff on these priests, not the lounge. And I stand by my main point that it has absolutely sod all to do with the topic at hand.

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              quickly degenerate

                              Agreed. Perhaps you're right that such topic belong in the SB.

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              absolutely sod all

                              Agreed. BTW, and OT: I like that phrase. I'll be adopting it.

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                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                It had nothing to do with a UK v US spelling - pedo means foot to me (as in pedometer), but that's probably prevalent with me being a Talipes sufferer. And it would be a greek spelling debate if you want to get technical because pedo is derived from greek in both of those cases.

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                                wizardzz
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                                You can't let it go? It is just another UK vs. US spelling debate. You're wrong anyways, ped means child in Greek, as in pediatrician. pedo means ground or soil in Greek (not the root of what we are talking about). ped as in foot comes from Latin ped, for foot.

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                                  You can't let it go? It is just another UK vs. US spelling debate. You're wrong anyways, ped means child in Greek, as in pediatrician. pedo means ground or soil in Greek (not the root of what we are talking about). ped as in foot comes from Latin ped, for foot.

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                                  wizardzz wrote:

                                  ped as in foot comes from Latin ped, for foot.

                                  Doh! Of course it does. :doh:

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                                    There is a recent hindi movie which suggest that in these cases the religious entities should pay for the damage as they are the one collecting premium on the name of god. IMDB[^]

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                                    Not the first - there was this in 2001: The Man Who Sued God[^] and probably earlier ones.

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                                      wizardzz wrote:

                                      ped as in foot comes from Latin ped, for foot.

                                      Doh! Of course it does. :doh:

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                                      Okay... so where the priests molesting feet? My stars, that whole thing is sicker than I imagined.

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                                        Not the first - there was this in 2001: The Man Who Sued God[^] and probably earlier ones.

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                                        Looks like they have again stolen plot got inspired form an English movie.

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                                          Okay... so where the priests molesting feet? My stars, that whole thing is sicker than I imagined.

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                                          And as I spent 10 years regularly visiting pediatric doctors, you can see that I'm traumatised.

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