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  • B Brit

    Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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    Bruce Duncan
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    Slightly off-topic to the parent post, but makes for some interesting reading. "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign[^]

    Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
    I can levitate birds...

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      I find that actually quite entertaining. :-D You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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      dorkshoe
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      Me too! hehe. -dork

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      • T Tim Smith

        Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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        Jamie Hale
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        Tim Smith wrote: Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? I wasn't. But I didn't try very hard. Do you have to spoof the agent? J "We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Tom Stoppard - Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.

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        • T Tim Smith

          He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Well, isn't that what the Opera people where whining about? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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          William E Kempf
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          Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf

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          • B Brit

            Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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            Steven Hicks n 1
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            What language is that page written in? I was able to view the website :P (using the Google cache). There is a term of people like that prejudice against browsers or ignorant (take your pick). -Steven CP Addict

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            • N Nitron

              Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...

              Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
              men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
              Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
              billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.

               Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001 
              

              :wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron


              "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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              Leifen
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              It is Swedish: It is the simple that is the difficult. The pure ... At the end there is a comment of all these "cheap" flash-programs...

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              • B Brit

                Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                Giles
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                What a monkey. And when I do use Opera, its (a) in German - sheesh. (b) has content of no use to anyone. The humanity!!!

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                • B Bruce Duncan

                  So? Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) My main gripe is with sites like the one mentioned, that tell you to bugger off unless you're running their preferred browser. Sure, tell me that it is optimized for such-and-such browser, but let me at least try with my browser of choice. If I decide that my experience is less than satisfactory, I might consider coming back with another browser.

                  Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                  I can levitate birds...

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  Bruce Duncan wrote: Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) In theory only, unfortunately.

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                  • B Brit

                    Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Whether you believe the conspiracy theorists or not, you've certainly got to admire their sense of humour... :laugh: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                    • B Brit

                      Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                      Davide Pizzolato
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                      common stuff in linux and hacker communities, I guess they have some good reason to ban M$

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                      • T Ted Ferenc

                        It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!


                        If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                        Paul Riley
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                        Ted Ferenc wrote: In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect Right on, Ted! I always say that I don't give a damn what my (non-commercial) sites look like to non-IE browsers but they'd better be functional. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
                        Racing around to come up behind you again
                        The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
                        Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
                        - Pink Floyd, Time

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                        • W William E Kempf

                          Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf

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                          Lost User
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                          The only purpose of the site seems to be rant. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                          • B Bruce Duncan

                            Slightly off-topic to the parent post, but makes for some interesting reading. "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign[^]

                            Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                            I can levitate birds...

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                            Lost User
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                            It is a great thing that someone has finally started to do something about this issue. I believe that web pages should work on all browsers; but anyone who has written atleast one page knows that it becomes a PITA very soon. Usually this is because the HTML and CSS references that are used are from the browser makers themselves. In theory, HTML conversion tools can be created that will take HTML/css/scripts working fine on one browser and create copies that will work on all browsers OR implement the same functionality on other target browsers. But, this is a good starting point, although without an automated tool, many problems can slip through. A couple of years ago when I wote a web app I noticed that IE shows tables correctly even if say a row's </td> is missing; but Netscape will not show the table at all. This maeks it difficult for the author because he has to go through checking every page with all browsers. This may not be a viable proposition, considering deadlines that have to be met. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                              What a monkey. And when I do use Opera, its (a) in German - sheesh. (b) has content of no use to anyone. The humanity!!!

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                              obviously it is just a rant, that costs him some money for the domain... My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                              • B Bruce Duncan

                                Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. * yes, I have come across these on occasion, thankfully they are not as commonplace as they used to be *

                                Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                                I can levitate birds...

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                                Brad Jennings
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                                I agree, it's pretty dumb to dump anybody to a page like the one mentioned just because they aren't using your preferred browser. If the website is designed good then most of the content should be fairly browser independent anyway. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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                                  The only purpose of the site seems to be rant. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                  palbano
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                                  Yeah just another crap head... I got his rhino right here! -pete

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                                  • W William E Kempf

                                    Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf

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                                    Tim Smith
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                                    *cough* sarcasm Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                    • J Jamie Hale

                                      Tim Smith wrote: Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? I wasn't. But I didn't try very hard. Do you have to spoof the agent? J "We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Tom Stoppard - Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.

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                                      Tim Smith
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                                      Well, Opera can be set to report itself as MSIE, but that didn't work. I really didn't try hard either. I am getting close to switching to Opera just because I am so damn sick of all the popups. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                        obviously it is just a rant, that costs him some money for the domain... My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                        Giles
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                                        This is the type of person, who probably winges about Betamax. Yes Betamax was technically better - or was it - it could not have a 120min or 2 hour tape format initially. Netscape was good, until IE got better. We still have Netscape 4.5 on the install at work, and it looks and feels awful compared to IE. Opera, has some good points(I'm a fan of the MDI/SDI & MDI combo, as well as the gestures), but there are come clear advantages IT has, its clean, unclutered and fast. Sorry am I ranting. I like a good rant. I'll rant at anybody who replies to my messages. :-D Sorry, Giles

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                                        • T Tim Smith

                                          Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                          Ted Ferenc
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                                          No dynamic view does not work. But it does seem more stable than 6.03, i.e. it hangs less often!


                                          If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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