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  • B Bruce Duncan

    Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. * yes, I have come across these on occasion, thankfully they are not as commonplace as they used to be *

    Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
    I can levitate birds...

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    Tim Smith
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    Like duh. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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      Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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      Navin
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      I find that actually quite entertaining. :-D You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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        He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Well, isn't that what the Opera people where whining about? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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        Ted Ferenc
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        It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!


        If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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          Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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          Nitron
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          Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...

          Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
          men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
          Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
          billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.

           Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001 
          

          :wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron


          "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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          • B Bruce Duncan

            Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. * yes, I have come across these on occasion, thankfully they are not as commonplace as they used to be *

            Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
            I can levitate birds...

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            Bruce Duncan wrote: Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. Sorry, but that's not the point. It costs money to support different browsers, and if you support only IE, that is a good way to save money - the downside is that less than 5% of visitors may have problems with viewing the site.

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            • B Brit

              Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Well it serves the intended purpose - it provokes! If this is a mainstream site (I have no clue of its contents because I only have IE at home :)), then I guess it'll be food for thought for their could-have-been visitors. Personally I really don't like these tactics. They should have put a banner or something on the site with a message and a link to a page which communicates their message. But I have to admit that I understand why they're doing this. That MSN/Opera thing is an equally bad thing. Maybe even worse! The plan behind the MSN/Opera thing is to put Opera into a bad position by tricking the visitor. Yes, tricking! Someone posted a link to an article about it here on CP the other day. It showed how Microsoft deliberately switched CSS files for Opera browsers, thus fooling the browser to render the MSN pages badly. Clearly that's foul play! I don't know about you, but I think that's on the edge of being a criminal act. -- "It is amazing how f-ing crazy I really am."

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              • T Ted Ferenc

                It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!


                If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                Tim Smith
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                Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                  Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...

                  Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
                  men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
                  Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
                  billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.

                   Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001 
                  

                  :wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron


                  "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                  JohnJ
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                  Dunno..I just tried the same thing... Its looks Swedish or something. It probably either says "You have flash-program installed so p*ss off":omg: or alternatively "You don't have flash-program installed so p*ss off":wtf: Who really cares :-D JohnJ Time for a :java::java::java: but no :vegemite: http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Bruce Duncan wrote: Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. Sorry, but that's not the point. It costs money to support different browsers, and if you support only IE, that is a good way to save money - the downside is that less than 5% of visitors may have problems with viewing the site.

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                    Bruce Duncan
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                    So? Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) My main gripe is with sites like the one mentioned, that tell you to bugger off unless you're running their preferred browser. Sure, tell me that it is optimized for such-and-such browser, but let me at least try with my browser of choice. If I decide that my experience is less than satisfactory, I might consider coming back with another browser.

                    Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                    I can levitate birds...

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                    • B Brit

                      Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                      Bruce Duncan
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                      Slightly off-topic to the parent post, but makes for some interesting reading. "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign[^]

                      Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                      I can levitate birds...

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                      • N Navin

                        I find that actually quite entertaining. :-D You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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                        dorkshoe
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                        Me too! hehe. -dork

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                        • T Tim Smith

                          Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                          Jamie Hale
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                          Tim Smith wrote: Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? I wasn't. But I didn't try very hard. Do you have to spoof the agent? J "We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Tom Stoppard - Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.

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                          • T Tim Smith

                            He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Well, isn't that what the Opera people where whining about? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                            William E Kempf
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                            Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf

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                            • B Brit

                              Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                              Steven Hicks n 1
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                              What language is that page written in? I was able to view the website :P (using the Google cache). There is a term of people like that prejudice against browsers or ignorant (take your pick). -Steven CP Addict

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                              • N Nitron

                                Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...

                                Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
                                men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
                                Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
                                billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.

                                 Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001 
                                

                                :wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron


                                "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                                Leifen
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                                It is Swedish: It is the simple that is the difficult. The pure ... At the end there is a comment of all these "cheap" flash-programs...

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                                • B Brit

                                  Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                                  Giles
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                                  What a monkey. And when I do use Opera, its (a) in German - sheesh. (b) has content of no use to anyone. The humanity!!!

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                                  • B Bruce Duncan

                                    So? Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) My main gripe is with sites like the one mentioned, that tell you to bugger off unless you're running their preferred browser. Sure, tell me that it is optimized for such-and-such browser, but let me at least try with my browser of choice. If I decide that my experience is less than satisfactory, I might consider coming back with another browser.

                                    Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                                    I can levitate birds...

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                    Bruce Duncan wrote: Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) In theory only, unfortunately.

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                                    • B Brit

                                      Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      Whether you believe the conspiracy theorists or not, you've certainly got to admire their sense of humour... :laugh: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                      • B Brit

                                        Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                                        Davide Pizzolato
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                                        common stuff in linux and hacker communities, I guess they have some good reason to ban M$

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                                        • T Ted Ferenc

                                          It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!


                                          If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                                          Paul Riley
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                                          Ted Ferenc wrote: In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect Right on, Ted! I always say that I don't give a damn what my (non-commercial) sites look like to non-IE browsers but they'd better be functional. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
                                          Racing around to come up behind you again
                                          The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
                                          Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
                                          - Pink Floyd, Time

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