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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Well it serves the intended purpose - it provokes! If this is a mainstream site (I have no clue of its contents because I only have IE at home :)), then I guess it'll be food for thought for their could-have-been visitors. Personally I really don't like these tactics. They should have put a banner or something on the site with a message and a link to a page which communicates their message. But I have to admit that I understand why they're doing this. That MSN/Opera thing is an equally bad thing. Maybe even worse! The plan behind the MSN/Opera thing is to put Opera into a bad position by tricking the visitor. Yes, tricking! Someone posted a link to an article about it here on CP the other day. It showed how Microsoft deliberately switched CSS files for Opera browsers, thus fooling the browser to render the MSN pages badly. Clearly that's foul play! I don't know about you, but I think that's on the edge of being a criminal act. -- "It is amazing how f-ing crazy I really am."
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It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676
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Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...
Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001:wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
Dunno..I just tried the same thing... Its looks Swedish or something. It probably either says "You have flash-program installed so p*ss off":omg: or alternatively "You don't have flash-program installed so p*ss off":wtf: Who really cares :-D JohnJ Time for a :java::java::java: but no :vegemite: http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Bruce Duncan wrote: Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. Sorry, but that's not the point. It costs money to support different browsers, and if you support only IE, that is a good way to save money - the downside is that less than 5% of visitors may have problems with viewing the site.
So? Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) My main gripe is with sites like the one mentioned, that tell you to bugger off unless you're running their preferred browser. Sure, tell me that it is optimized for such-and-such browser, but let me at least try with my browser of choice. If I decide that my experience is less than satisfactory, I might consider coming back with another browser.
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Slightly off-topic to the parent post, but makes for some interesting reading. "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign[^]
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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I find that actually quite entertaining. :-D You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
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Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: Have you been able to get Opera 7 to work with CP dynamic view? I wasn't. But I didn't try very hard. Do you have to spoof the agent? J "We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Tom Stoppard - Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.
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He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Well, isn't that what the Opera people where whining about? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf
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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
What language is that page written in? I was able to view the website :P (using the Google cache). There is a term of people like that prejudice against browsers or ignorant (take your pick). -Steven CP Addict
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Of course I had to fire up Mozilla just to see what was there...
Det är det enkla som är det svåra. Den rena avskalade formen, det stringenta
men ändå samtidigt lite mystiska och fantasieggande innehållet. Klar kultstatus.
Efter alla flash-program (som börjar bli jävligt uttjatade och kännas jävligt
billiga vid det här laget) så känns detta som en befrielse.Thomas Hammar i WebTrend, April 2001:wtf: That's all that was there. X| Does anyone know what it says?? - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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So? Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) My main gripe is with sites like the one mentioned, that tell you to bugger off unless you're running their preferred browser. Sure, tell me that it is optimized for such-and-such browser, but let me at least try with my browser of choice. If I decide that my experience is less than satisfactory, I might consider coming back with another browser.
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
I can levitate birds...Bruce Duncan wrote: Stick to standards, and you should not have any problems (in theory only, unfortunately) In theory only, unfortunately.
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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Whether you believe the conspiracy theorists or not, you've certainly got to admire their sense of humour... :laugh: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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Speaking of serving different pages to different browsers, I've never seen this one before. (Talk about going out on a limb!) http://www.provocation.net/msie.html[^] ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
common stuff in linux and hacker communities, I guess they have some good reason to ban M$
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It made me laugh! Even though it is not a serious site. I use Opera because I prefer it over IE. In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect, like CP on Opera ;)! but it should be accesable. Also there are other operating systems out there beside Windows you know!
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676
Ted Ferenc wrote: In a serious vein a site should be accesable to the majority of browsers out there, perhaps not 100% perfect Right on, Ted! I always say that I don't give a damn what my (non-commercial) sites look like to non-IE browsers but they'd better be functional. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath, one day closer to death - Pink Floyd, Time -
Tim Smith wrote: He is trying to crush Microsoft by excluding access to his site. Have you looked at the site's front page with something other than IE? Granted, I don't speak what ever language that is, but I hardly think this site stands any chance what so ever of "crushing" Microsoft. I had a bigger chuckle at this page than I did the MS rant. William E. Kempf
The only purpose of the site seems to be rant. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Slightly off-topic to the parent post, but makes for some interesting reading. "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign[^]
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
I can levitate birds...It is a great thing that someone has finally started to do something about this issue. I believe that web pages should work on all browsers; but anyone who has written atleast one page knows that it becomes a PITA very soon. Usually this is because the HTML and CSS references that are used are from the browser makers themselves. In theory, HTML conversion tools can be created that will take HTML/css/scripts working fine on one browser and create copies that will work on all browsers OR implement the same functionality on other target browsers. But, this is a good starting point, although without an automated tool, many problems can slip through. A couple of years ago when I wote a web app I noticed that IE shows tables correctly even if say a row's </td> is missing; but Netscape will not show the table at all. This maeks it difficult for the author because he has to go through checking every page with all browsers. This may not be a viable proposition, considering deadlines that have to be met. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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What a monkey. And when I do use Opera, its (a) in German - sheesh. (b) has content of no use to anyone. The humanity!!!
obviously it is just a rant, that costs him some money for the domain... My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Only as dumb as those idiot webmasters that dump you to a similar page because you're not using IE on a Windows O/S. * yes, I have come across these on occasion, thankfully they are not as commonplace as they used to be *
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
I can levitate birds...I agree, it's pretty dumb to dump anybody to a page like the one mentioned just because they aren't using your preferred browser. If the website is designed good then most of the content should be fairly browser independent anyway. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies
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The only purpose of the site seems to be rant. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers