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  • C Christian Graus

    Faith is the origin of their incorrect belief, but the fact is, the Bible still does not say that.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Lost User
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Faith is the origin of their incorrect belief, but the fact is, the Bible still does not say that.

    Is there an example of something the bible does say that is now known to be incorrect?

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Faith is the origin of their incorrect belief, but the fact is, the Bible still does not say that.

      Is there an example of something the bible does say that is now known to be incorrect?

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      I would agree that any reasonable reading of Gen 1 has God creating the world in 6 literal days, and that the only reason people look for ways for it to not say that, is that it is plainly not true.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        That's pretty much the stupidest thing I've seen posted on CodeProject.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        Clifford Nelson
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        I don't know

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        • C Christian Graus

          Of course. Because you're an idiot.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          I'm a Bitter Clinger and also a White Male.

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Christian Graus wrote:

            Criminals can only get guns if society gives them access, through people having them.

            That is incorrect. The UK permits no guns yet they are routinely used by criminals to shoot people. Anyone intent enough will always find a way to get hold of weapons, regardless of the law.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Chris Quinn
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            There are probably less than 20 gun involved murders in the UK annually - I think we have the problem largely under control

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            • A AnalogNerd

              It might be worth noting that he injured 22, and didn't kill 18. But then again, it might not. There's no easy solution to any of these tragic events.

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              Dexterus
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              There is a very easy solution. Drastic enforcement of how sane people need to be to own a gun, of storage regulations. Prison if you sell to people that not mentally stable, if you are found to have given an OK to a guy that ends up shooting someone (as a psychiatrist) or suck at safely storing your guns/ammo. Sure it drives costs through the roof for the buyers/stores but who the hell cares. You buy/sell guns, take the responsibility.

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              • C Christian Graus

                I meant if I must face a madman, I'd rather he not have a gun, than me have one, too.

                Slacker007 wrote:

                You don't need a gun, to harm.

                This statement is both true, and stupid. If you joined the army, would you expect to be given a gun, or would you say 'I don't need a gun to harm people' ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                I joined the army and I hurt people. I was an infantry sniper. Do you have anymore comments about killing?

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                • C Chris Quinn

                  There are probably less than 20 gun involved murders in the UK annually - I think we have the problem largely under control

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Largely under control would be zero murders.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                  • J jschell

                    Forogar wrote:

                    With guns, I don't know if I would be here at all.

                    But as long as we are doing hypotheticals we should consider what would have been the outcome in those three cases if you had had a gun and you were trained to use it in combat situations.

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                    I was actually trained in gun combat - and unarmed combat - which is how I prevailed in each case. I was living in England at the time and only owned a high powered sporting air-pistol - which never left the house except to take part in tournaments. I was a certified marksman with pistol, various types of rifle, SMG and LMG thanks to my military training. I was also a black belt at Judo, and an expert with longbow, crossbow and was fairly good at knife and axe throwing. Despite all that I don't think I could have prevented myself from getting stabbed and slashed even if I had been illegally carrying a gun in those cases.

                    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                    • S Smart K8

                      OK, let's play your game. Can you then please show me the study to confirm a direct correlation, that the culture is the cause? (moreover in favor of the current situation, not just any type of correlation) Because there are plenty studies showing that availability is one of the major factors. The conclusion that culture is the cause can probably explain (partially) the 200 times more gun induced deaths in comparison to Japan. But it is hardly different from all the cultures in the world. The major cultural difference would be probably the increased need to own a gun, thus proving my point about availability causes. But I guess the study you'll show me, will probably have roots of culture difference causing this pinpointed. :) regards, Kate

                      The wisdom is to see things truthfully.

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                      Smart K8 wrote:

                      Can you then please show me the study to confirm a direct correlation, that the culture is the cause

                      I can't. It is supposition on my part and probably not provable given the context.

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                      • S Slacker007

                        I joined the army and I hurt people. I was an infantry sniper. Do you have anymore comments about killing?

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                        Is that meant to be scary ? What is your point ? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/opinion/collins-looking-for-america.html?_r=3&src=m5cv3&[^]

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Largely under control would be zero murders.

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                          Chris Quinn
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                          No - that would be "completely" under control

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                          • C Chris Quinn

                            No - that would be "completely" under control

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            :)

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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