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  • C Chris Maunder

    I would if it were a programming question. And, regardless of the attempt at humour, I am sad, deeply sad, that it was you who jumped on the "no programming questions" bandwagon. So I'm going to jump on my soapbox because it's a fantastic way to procrastinate further, and bemoan the lack of interesting technical discussion on the lounge where bad jokes and political rhetoric seem to be more accepted than discussion on the topics that we as developers hold dearest to our hearts. For shame, David. For shame.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Dalek Dave
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    Do Not Procrastinate Today! Wait until tomorrow and have a whole day of it. Until then, stare at this picture[^] of a cat.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I was drunk. That suggestion is awesome and I recant.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      I was drunk.

      You always say that :cool:

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

        Test.NotNull(myObject);
        if (myObject != null)
        {
        Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
        if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
        Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
        ...
        }

        I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

        Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

        but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

        if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

        because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        The null object pattern.

        public class Customer{}
        public class NullCustomer : Customer{}

        Then instead of assigning a customer reference to null you assign it to the null customer, etc. Then you can do all of your work without null checks. There are some instances where this works really, really, well. However, if you are chaining functions it is probably some sort of workflow so there maybe another solution that issue.

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        • P peterchen

          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I was drunk.

          You always say that :cool:

          ORDER BY what user wants

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          Dalek Dave
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          He's always drunk.

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          • P peterchen

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I was drunk.

            You always say that :cool:

            ORDER BY what user wants

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            No. I always say that.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I would if it were a programming question. And, regardless of the attempt at humour, I am sad, deeply sad, that it was you who jumped on the "no programming questions" bandwagon. So I'm going to jump on my soapbox because it's a fantastic way to procrastinate further, and bemoan the lack of interesting technical discussion on the lounge where bad jokes and political rhetoric seem to be more accepted than discussion on the topics that we as developers hold dearest to our hearts. For shame, David. For shame.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Corporal Agarn
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              I think you should ban him! :laugh: ;P

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                No. I always say that.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Dalek Dave
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                You're always drunk!

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  You're always drunk!

                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  I may well be tonight.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • N NormDroid

                    If voting was available, I would of shot you a 5, but alas.....

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                    Shelby Robertson
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                    Norm .net wrote:

                    If voting was available, I would of shot you a 5, but alas.....

                    Seconded.

                    CPallini wrote:

                    You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                      Test.NotNull(myObject);
                      if (myObject != null)
                      {
                      Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                      if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                      Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                      ...
                      }

                      I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                      Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                      but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                      if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                      because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      There is a way that you could do this, but it would be much more trouble than it was worth, and it would definitely open up a whole world of hurt. Effectively, what would need to be implemented is an IL rewriter to manage and rewrite the chain internally. Then you could create a fluid interface that would need to be recognised as the item that needs rewriting.

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                      • E Espen Harlinn

                        You can implement this using extension methods[^] ...

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                        Lost User
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                        Or a decorator, preferably combined with the NullObject-pattern :)

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                          Test.NotNull(myObject);
                          if (myObject != null)
                          {
                          Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                          if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                          Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                          ...
                          }

                          I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                          Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                          but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                          if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                          because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          Not very elegant, even if you could. Nice to get all clever (over engineering is, surely, an anti-pattern) with code but sometime in the future some poor sap will have to maintain what you have put together so keep it simple and verbose.

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                          • E Espen Harlinn

                            You can implement this using extension methods[^] ...

                            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                            Ranjan D
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                            Yes my vote for extension methods :)

                            Ranjan.D

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                              Test.NotNull(myObject);
                              if (myObject != null)
                              {
                              Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                              if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                              Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                              ...
                              }

                              I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                              Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                              but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                              if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                              because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Roger Wright
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                              I've heard of chaining programs and subprograms - using hpl on the HP 9825, for instance - but short circuit evaluation was never considered. Having never optimized a program for multi-processor environments, I have no idea how to do this, but you could launch a separate process for each of your levels of test, then cancel all if any one of them fails. It might not be useful, but it would certainly give the grunts whose job it is to debug things something interesting to do. :rolleyes:

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                No. I always say that.


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                Jibesh
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                                so who is really drunk here. was it me?

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                  Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                  if (myObject != null)
                                  {
                                  Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                  if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                  Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                  Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                  but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                  if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                  because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  Out of curiosity, what would you do in the else section of such a call?

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                    Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                    if (myObject != null)
                                    {
                                    Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                    if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                    Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                    ...
                                    }

                                    I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                    Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                    but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                    if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                    because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    There are a few ways you could do this, but one thing I've been meaning to write a tip/trick on (as soon as I figure out how it can be done) is the expression tree approach. You'd do this:

                                    var result = SafeChain(A.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k);

                                    The parameter would be passed as an expression tree, which would then be evaluated in steps, making sure to check for nulls along the way. The first null would cause null to be returned, otherwise the result value would be returned. I imagine you could use the same approach with your method chaining / expression trees.

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                      Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                      if (myObject != null)
                                      {
                                      Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                      if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                      Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                      ...
                                      }

                                      I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                      Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                      but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                      if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                      because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      In C# you can implement this k<ind of chaining using extension methods and expressions trees. The extension method (somewhat combined version of the two above):

                                          public static U NotNull(this T myObject, Expression expression) 
                                              where U : class
                                          {
                                              if (myObject == null)
                                                  return null;
                                              else
                                              {
                                                 var func = expression.Compile();
                                                  return func();
                                              }
                                          }
                                      

                                      Usage (returns either null if there's a null in the chain, or the value of MySubProperty, with almost the same syntax as above):

                                      var value = myObject.NotNull(() => myObject.MyProperty).NotNull(() => myProperty.MySubProperty);

                                      The only downside I found that in this case you have to declare a variable of type MyProperty for use in the second lambda expression. Maybe there's a way around it, but I didn't manage to find one as of yet. That can be changed though if the input remains myObject and the expression consists of the full path i. e. () => myObject.MyProperty.MySubProperty.

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                                        I am testing several depths of properties in an object to make sure they are safe before I call them:

                                        Test.NotNull(myObject);
                                        if (myObject != null)
                                        {
                                        Test.NotNull(myObject.MyProperty);
                                        if (myObject.MyProperty != null)
                                        Test.IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);
                                        ...
                                        }

                                        I was thinking it would be really cool to be able to do

                                        Test.NotNull(myObject).NotNull(myObject.MyProperty).IsPositive(myObject.MyProperty.Id);

                                        but obviously if myObject == null then we have a runtime null ref error because, regardless of what the NotNull method returns as part of the chaining, myObject is still null. So this got me thinking: You can do

                                        if (myObject != null && myObject.MyProperty != null)

                                        because of short circuit boolean evaluation in C#, but I was wondering, with my fairly mainstream experience in languages, if there are languages out there that would allow chaining of methods with short circuit evaluation. Essentially you'd have to have the input parameter be resolved after the method was called in order to have the method be able to say "I don't need the input parameter, please just ignore it". Has anyone heard of this? Would it open up a World Of Pain when it comes to debugging? Would it be useful? Am I procrastinating? --- Update: and it turns out this leads into a great discussion of extension methods. See The Maybe Monad[^] and Chained null checks and the Maybe monad[^] for two ways of achieving this. Once you've done that, debate the correctness of extension methods that are able by design to operate on a null references. I will be over there looking for new, shiny, distracting things.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        Am I procrastinating?

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                                          There are a few ways you could do this, but one thing I've been meaning to write a tip/trick on (as soon as I figure out how it can be done) is the expression tree approach. You'd do this:

                                          var result = SafeChain(A.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k);

                                          The parameter would be passed as an expression tree, which would then be evaluated in steps, making sure to check for nulls along the way. The first null would cause null to be returned, otherwise the result value would be returned. I imagine you could use the same approach with your method chaining / expression trees.

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                                          szukuro
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                                          Actually to be passed as an expresion tree you'd have to write:

                                          var result = SafeChain(**() =>**A.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k);

                                          But I agree that this is the way to do it.

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