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What Language Features Do You Miss In C#?

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  • S Single Step Debugger

    Something from Transact SQL – the “in” clause. Something like:

    if(myShoeSize in (16, 12, 17, 32) )
    {
    imAMutant = true;
    }

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    AspDotNetDev
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    There is .Contains.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      ...And get derisive noises at the next code review! :laugh: Or, you could put both operations in methods and call them?

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      A goto case is not a goto. But, yes, I don't like break in a switch; in my opinion break should only be for loops only.

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      • S Single Step Debugger

        Something from Transact SQL – the “in” clause. Something like:

        if(myShoeSize in (16, 12, 17, 32) )
        {
        imAMutant = true;
        }

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        HashSet

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Method-scoped variables like in VB (static). Defining Extension Methods by applying the Attribute like in VB (rather than this). A proper assignment operator like in Pascal := :-D A proper define directive like in C/C++ # define Pi 3.14 Support for enum in where clauses for generic types -- class C<T> where T : enum ... No default modifiers (public, private, virtual, sealed, etc.). Multiple Inheritence would be good too.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            HashSet

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Yes I know. We can also implement it in C++ using operator overloading. But the point is for a language future, not a pattern, collection or utility class.

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              There is .Contains.

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              Single Step Debugger
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              This one is type dependent and not a language future but some class method. Same as Split() (very useful method by the way) or IsNullOrEmpty() for example.

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              • S Single Step Debugger

                Yes I know. We can also implement it in C++ using operator overloading. But the point is for a language future, not a pattern, collection or utility class.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Yet HasSet allows other operations, such as union and intersection; would you argue for syntax to allow every such operation? I wouldn't.

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                • K Kent Sharkey

                  Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

                  -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                  H Brydon
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                  What I would like to see in the language: - Destructors that destruct (not the silly Dispose() stuff) [you can easily trigger local garbage collection with an exit from scope] - Ability to use arrays with non-zero origin - inline operator||(), inline operator&&() which implement short circuit logic

                  -- Harvey

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

                    -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Multiple inheritance. Interfaces are useful as abstractions, but there are times I want to inherit concrete functionality from multiple classes. Marc

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                    • K Kent Sharkey

                      Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

                      -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      I want lambda expressions, that can be evaluated at compile time, allowed in attributes, to avoid nasty string literals.

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                      • K Kent Sharkey

                        Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

                        -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        Having a generic type constraint on operators. Something where T : +, -, >, < Or something. Or just provide one easy way to work with numerics, for example: Something where T : numeric After which you can use +, -, >, < etc. by default and T can be int16, int 32, int64, single, byte, double, decimal or an unsigned of those.

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                        • K Kent Sharkey

                          Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

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                          Chris C B
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                          On error resume next

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Multiple inheritance. Interfaces are useful as abstractions, but there are times I want to inherit concrete functionality from multiple classes. Marc

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                            JeremyBob
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                            +1 from me

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                            • K Kent Sharkey

                              Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

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                              m0sa
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                              - aspect oriented programming (PostSharp...) - mixin support - serializable expressions

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                              • M Marc A Brown

                                I would like to see the addition of a keyword to allow fallthrough in a switch statement (maybe "nobreak"?). I don't need/want to do that often, so the compiler preventing "accidental" fallthrough is nice; however, it sure would be nice to be able to fall through when necessary.

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                                Marach
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                                you can type several 'case' statements one after the other. contrived example:

                                int number = GetNumberBetween1And5();
                                string text = null;
                                switch( number ) {
                                case 1:
                                text = "1";
                                break;
                                case 2:
                                case 3:
                                case 4:
                                text = "2 or 3 or 4";
                                break;
                                case 5:
                                text = "5";
                                break;
                                }

                                is that type of fall-through what you said you're missing?

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  A goto case is not a goto. But, yes, I don't like break in a switch; in my opinion break should only be for loops only.

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  I agree - it isn't. But...it is a out-of-structure code flow indicator, which can easily create the same spaghetti code as a goto. So on balance, while I found the no-drop-through rule limiting at first, I don't miss it so much now. I just restructure the code to not need it in the same way that I don't need goto itself. And I definitely agree on break - the switch version should have used a different word: "esac" or "join" perhaps.

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                                  • E Espen Harlinn

                                    You certainly go straight to The Heart of Everything[^]

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                                    OriginalGriff
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                                    Because I have A Dangerous Mind[^] :-D

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                                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                      Having a #thread block similar to the #region one except it makes that part of the code threaded and only within a single function. :)

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                                      Sentenryu
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                                      like this[^]?

                                      I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p) "Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241

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                                      • P Paulo Zemek

                                        In my case, actually, for every Foo<T> I also have an IFoo where the parameters are as object instead of T. I think java have such feature (I know, in java the implementation is completely different)... I think they use: Foo<?> to say that they don't know the type being used. It is slower than having it rightly typed, but it is faster than having it as dynamic or through reflection.

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                                        Sentenryu
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                                        why the heck you just don't use a generic method?

                                        public void DoGenericStuff(Foo foo)
                                        {
                                        ....
                                        }

                                        I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p) "Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Method-scoped variables like in VB (static). Defining Extension Methods by applying the Attribute like in VB (rather than this). A proper assignment operator like in Pascal := :-D A proper define directive like in C/C++ # define Pi 3.14 Support for enum in where clauses for generic types -- class C<T> where T : enum ... No default modifiers (public, private, virtual, sealed, etc.). Multiple Inheritence would be good too.

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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          A proper assignment operator like in Pascal :=:-D
                                           
                                          A proper define directive like in C/C++ # define Pi 3.14 ... Multiple Inheritence would be good too.

                                          if any of thouse got added i would be sooo mad, i alread have too much bad code to deal even without those...

                                          I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p) "Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241

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