A Moment of Silence, Please
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MehGerbil wrote:
I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses
er... that just happens to be human nature. we all do it based on our own thoughts, opinions and prejudices, Just because someone doesn't mean to offend doesn't mean that something they write will be inoffensive to everyone. Grow a pair, suck it up and move on.... after all, does it really bother you that much?
Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"
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I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.
harold aptroot wrote:
the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved
No it's all about who's cracking the joke.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
John 8:7
"And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.
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MehGerbil wrote:
I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice.
That was my only objective.Fair enough, but I'm not sure who else you were targeting there.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierNagy, unfortunately, is a stand in for a disproportional amount of scrutiny only because his constant references to drinking made it easy to illustrate the point. I don't mind that he tells drinking jokes and I don't mind that he disagrees with the post being distasteful. That is all fair game. However, it crosses the line when someone who constantly makes lite of [insert serious problem] uses someone else's mocking of [insert serious problem] as a launching pad for self-righteous drivel. People are free to voice their disapproval. Poor taste? Sure. But don't make out that I'm spitting on the graves of the dearly departed or trying to hurt people here that have suffered losses due to this terrible disease.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
John 8:7
"And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.
Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Good theory, that does explain a lot. I would refine it to "it's all about who the person who's cracking the joke appears to be", because it's not always clear, and PB gets different reactions when he posts as PB than when he posts as popeye boermyth.
Yes, I've noticed exactly that too.
harold aptroot wrote:
popeye boermyth
Missed that one, I wonder if we should ask him to keep a list of aliases to make it easier for us.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
The Book of Armaments.
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The Book of Armaments.
:thumbsup: I knew I recognised it from somewhere.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.
harold aptroot wrote:
the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved
No it's all about who's cracking the joke.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
it's all about who's cracking the joke
This.
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I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]
You do understand that they will be rebuilt and it's likely no one will ever know/see the difference so you will be free to practice your onanism unfettered? I admire her bravery all the more so for having the courage to make it public. I know you're trying to be funny but it's just not working for me.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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You do understand that they will be rebuilt and it's likely no one will ever know/see the difference so you will be free to practice your onanism unfettered? I admire her bravery all the more so for having the courage to make it public. I know you're trying to be funny but it's just not working for me.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]
My wife is currently battling breast cancer. She had a lumpectomy rather than a mastectomy, just finished chemotherapy with radiation therapy starting in the coming weeks. This morning when we saw Angelina's story on the news she made some comment about "I wonder how Brad feels about someone taking a knife to those puppies." So rest assured, not everyone (even someone who is currently seeing it first hand) is so uptight. Just to give you an idea of her mindset - she has a t-shirt that reads "Cancer - You picked the wrong bitch!".
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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My wife is currently battling breast cancer. She had a lumpectomy rather than a mastectomy, just finished chemotherapy with radiation therapy starting in the coming weeks. This morning when we saw Angelina's story on the news she made some comment about "I wonder how Brad feels about someone taking a knife to those puppies." So rest assured, not everyone (even someone who is currently seeing it first hand) is so uptight. Just to give you an idea of her mindset - she has a t-shirt that reads "Cancer - You picked the wrong bitch!".
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
Have a :thumbsup: for your mindset and a :rose: for you and your Wife.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.
Isn't this the behaviour of any group? a) Well liked people get more slack than non-well liked ones b) Regulars get more slack than non regulars c) Anyone who has a history of being a dick has little slack d) People from backgrounds differing to a sort of average for the the normal group get less slack, compounded by the fact such people are more likely to transgress the norms of the group. e) Newbies have a weird place: a certain amount will be tolerated, but less so than groups a & b. Consistent violation will be spanked harder and faster than other groups once the toleration is used up. Acceptance takes time. I think you'll find after you pass it through the system, you'll get equally good results as flipping a coin.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]
After Brad Pitt has come on your tits there is nothing left for them to achieve. It should be like Deal or No Deal (do you have that over there?), they keep her tits going somewhere and see when the cancer would have kicked in, if at all. Did she have the surgery unnecessarily, or ten years too early, or did she call it just right.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Isn't this the behaviour of any group? a) Well liked people get more slack than non-well liked ones b) Regulars get more slack than non regulars c) Anyone who has a history of being a dick has little slack d) People from backgrounds differing to a sort of average for the the normal group get less slack, compounded by the fact such people are more likely to transgress the norms of the group. e) Newbies have a weird place: a certain amount will be tolerated, but less so than groups a & b. Consistent violation will be spanked harder and faster than other groups once the toleration is used up. Acceptance takes time. I think you'll find after you pass it through the system, you'll get equally good results as flipping a coin.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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Isn't this the behaviour of any group? a) Well liked people get more slack than non-well liked ones b) Regulars get more slack than non regulars c) Anyone who has a history of being a dick has little slack d) People from backgrounds differing to a sort of average for the the normal group get less slack, compounded by the fact such people are more likely to transgress the norms of the group. e) Newbies have a weird place: a certain amount will be tolerated, but less so than groups a & b. Consistent violation will be spanked harder and faster than other groups once the toleration is used up. Acceptance takes time. I think you'll find after you pass it through the system, you'll get equally good results as flipping a coin.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
Well done summary. To complicate the model I'd like to add that this forum isn't having one normal group, but several. Roughly divided into different time zones, or rather the major contributing countries in the time zones. To even further complicating the model, one have to think of the fact that some of these groups interact better than others. One group interacted so bad it had to get it's own forum.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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My wife is currently battling breast cancer. She had a lumpectomy rather than a mastectomy, just finished chemotherapy with radiation therapy starting in the coming weeks. This morning when we saw Angelina's story on the news she made some comment about "I wonder how Brad feels about someone taking a knife to those puppies." So rest assured, not everyone (even someone who is currently seeing it first hand) is so uptight. Just to give you an idea of her mindset - she has a t-shirt that reads "Cancer - You picked the wrong bitch!".
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Rage wrote:
Everything is funny, but not with everyone.
I agree. That said, I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses - usually in such a way that let's them wrap themselves in a mantle of 'caring' and 'tolerance'. Meanwhile, I read things on this forum every day that I could choose to find offensive but I realize it's The Lounge and nobody means to offend. To say, 'I don't believe your post is funny.' is one thing. To begin making judgments about the kind of person I am crosses the line. This isn't a breast cancer survivor's forum.
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I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you.
Perhaps you need to get out more? Most humor is offensive to some people. And not just 60% but more like 99.999%. A significant amount of humor is offensive to a lot of people. And the term "shock jock" originated with comedy for that very reason. One can only just ignore it and move on. Or move to a country where the government is willing to curtail anything that offends.