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  • S Septimus Hedgehog

    Here we go again. I'll bring the sofa; who's doing the popcorn? Dim the lights. Tune[^]

    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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    :laugh: I love the Granpa comment! :thumbsup:

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      Exactly!!

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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      Nicholas Marty
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      psst. quiet please...

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Really? That's not what I've observed. Many, if not most, scientists are arrogant and full of themselves. That's what I've seen.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        Richard Deeming
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        How big was your sample? And who did you use as a control group? Your personal feeling that "most scientists are arrogant and full of themselves" probably says more about you than it does about scientists. I feel the same way about religionists, but that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          He specifically singled out scientists as an example of people who think they know everything. Scientists are the least likely people to think that.


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          GuyThiebaut
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          I work with scientists and concur with you as from my experience, as a group, they are very much driven by evidence and not opinion.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            How big was your sample? And who did you use as a control group? Your personal feeling that "most scientists are arrogant and full of themselves" probably says more about you than it does about scientists. I feel the same way about religionists, but that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Well, you've probably a point there. Being rather myopic aren't I? Still it is a general impression that a lot of people have. Not that that validates anything.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              :laugh: I love the Granpa comment! :thumbsup:

              The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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              Septimus Hedgehog
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              There were some good ones. The one "Do they still suck meat off the bone" amused me.

              If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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              • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                I don't know about you, but I am. :sigh: “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

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                • J Johnny J

                  AZAD CHOUHAN wrote:

                  are we alone in this universe

                  Not at all, I have several collegues sitting right next to me as I write. You needn't worry about being left all alone with me! What you SHOULD be worried about is being left all alone with DD! ;P

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                  Simon_Whale
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                  Johnny J. wrote:

                  You needn't worry about being left all alone with me!

                  Are you sure about that? :laugh:

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                  • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                    I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                    Even religious types don't assume humans are the only intelligent life form that exists: they figure a creator exists who by definition can't be human. (Whether they see it like that or not is up to them) From a scientific point of view, it would be very egocentric to assume we were - if would make our little, tiny corner of the universe "special" and we have been trying to avoid assuming that for millennia. In fact, most of our most important discoveries about the universe stem precisely from refusing to believe we are in a "special place" and working out what that means about the rest of it.

                    The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      I don't know about you, but I am. :sigh: “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

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                      +5 from one product of a deranged imagination to another!

                      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                      • J Johnny J

                        But it can hardly be intelligent life - We don't even have that here! ;P

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                        Johnny J. wrote:

                        But it can hardly be intelligent life - We don't even have that here!

                        I disagree! They are intelligent enough not to talk with us. :rolleyes:

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                        • L Lost User

                          Intelligent human life is not alone, we have the Americans for company.

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                          Ingo
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                          PB 369,783 wrote:

                          Intelligent human life is not alone, we have the Americans for company.

                          But: Is there intelligent live out there? ;)

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                          • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                            I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                            Given that we are still discovering new species and life on our own planet, I can't imagine that the universe is not full of an incredible plethora of life. Marc

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                            • L Lost User

                              It's funny you should ask this question. I was on Altros 5 the other day and some of the Miggles were discussing this same issue... Oh, wait... I've said too much.

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                              CHill60
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                              Shush!!! The Grand Bobbitt will get upset with us if we let the humans know we're here

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                How big was your sample? And who did you use as a control group? Your personal feeling that "most scientists are arrogant and full of themselves" probably says more about you than it does about scientists. I feel the same way about religionists, but that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                GuyThiebaut
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                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!

                                They do use the vernacular rather too much and I understand that their UK branch has posters saying 'God hates cigarettes' - kind of makes sense in the UK, what with health and safety and everything...

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  Richard Deeming wrote:

                                  that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!

                                  They do use the vernacular rather too much and I understand that their UK branch has posters saying 'God hates cigarettes' - kind of makes sense in the UK, what with health and safety and everything...

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  I understand God also hates footstools[^] and 18th century French hairstyles[^].


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Even religious types don't assume humans are the only intelligent life form that exists: they figure a creator exists who by definition can't be human. (Whether they see it like that or not is up to them) From a scientific point of view, it would be very egocentric to assume we were - if would make our little, tiny corner of the universe "special" and we have been trying to avoid assuming that for millennia. In fact, most of our most important discoveries about the universe stem precisely from refusing to believe we are in a "special place" and working out what that means about the rest of it.

                                    The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                    Richard Deeming
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                                    Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpr8YA-rOpA[^]


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      Not only are we alone, but YOU are alone in the universe! All of what you see, feel, hear, taste and experience is all due to your imagination. If you wake up, we'll all disappear!

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      Yeah... Wake up NEO, please leave the matrix! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Yeah - we're here to show the rest of the world how to take a good idea, establish a government around that idea, and corrupt it beyond all semblance of it's original form. Wait - that makes us like - the rest of the world.

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                                        Yes we didn't invent the cluster**** we just perfected it! ;)

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                                        • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                                          I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          No: highly unlikely. Will we ever find out if they exist/meet them? Not at present: we don't have the technology to reach another star in a single life time. Have they visited us here already? Again, unlikely but possible. The upshot of all this and the true answer to your question: we are all alone.

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